hi JH….is it correct to say you are achieving what Moe managed – hitting the ball straight…the KEY being the shoulder turn and chin pointing bottom right…..i believe Moe looked pretty much at the same angles in the downswing as well….However, you have managed to takeaway all that extra stuff – lead arm rod, slide and buckle and coming into the ball and made it so much simpler
Channel Lock is really nothing like Moe’s swing mechanics…Channel Lock requires a rear foot positioning of the Golf ball at address and a predominance of swing around the trail vertical axis of the body… there is never any disposition to swing the club towards the target ..only towards the ball in a straight line from ‘beside’ the body…not ‘in front’ of the body.
The intention is to hit the ball from ‘beside’ the body as an arm/hand attack line…not ‘in front’ of the body with an attack path moving past the center of the body towards the target..the swing is way ‘different’ to Moe’s swing.
I have been practicing this swing since the 2nd week you put it up. Evolving with you. I am a second year player, 61 yrs, finally getting into the mid to high 80’s. The last two rounds, using your swing, 84 and 85, have been my two lowest and most accurate rounds. I use Moe”s stance with club 4″ to 12″ behind like Moe, getting part of my shoulder turn done.
Single plane. I stand farther back. Today I experimented with this exact variation, moving left shoulder much more into the swing, using Moe’s stance. Absolute best control practice I have ever had using your technique today. Amazing how consistent. It just hits the balls far more in center of club with more power but feels easier and they go a club or club and half farther.
I have been using the DeVinci combined with this-are some similarities between the two- for chipping. Having used the DeVinci, I actually feel, for me, it was a pre-cursor to the channel. Great piece of inventive creation, at least for my swing. Very simple. Beautiful concept
I really believe this swing concept/process will be applicable to everyone with great effectiveness if they apply the protocol in its sequenced application …it’s purely a specific body geometry that if applied locks the club head into a specific tracking path to the ball every time…it is a simple process as far as the applied geometry goes ..it just takes a bit of body feeling adjustment to get on top of it.
I tried out the swing today and it felt weird until I swung, I had some of the straightest ball flight ever! I started to think:
This must be a very tiny taste of what Moe Norman must have felt with every swing
I hit my 7 iron very well, but occasionally hit the ball fat. My 3 iron I hit fat ALOT. Any thoughts as to why? I think I may have the ball too far back, not sure. I can’t believe how amazing this swing feels and I am only just starting with it!!!
Thanks for the videos JH!, I feel like this swing will be up there with Moe Norman, and Count Yogi!
All the best!
The ball is not ‘to far’ back ..probably not back ‘enough’ in reality.
Hitting the ball fat will come about as a result of the trail shoulder not being kept back and closed coming into impact …fat shots are usually steep attack angles as well ..if you really keep the shoulders closed and the chin riveted back at impact you will not be steep into the ball ..just try what you think is a crazy back positioned ball at address..it probably will end up only being where you really need it to be..its just that you have never experienced a ball position requirement of the extreme nature as this is and your brain initially just won’t comply with the extreme requirement difference of the ball position..
Just play the ball way back and and hit some half shots keeping you head riveted back in place and the shoulders closed way up at impact.. don’t look for the ball for 2 secs after impact…keep the closed up finish position for a while after impact…that will give you the feeling of the extreme difference you need to apply in this swing.
I have hit probably 5000 shots with the swing now and haven’t hit ‘one’ to the left of the target line as a pull/drag shot .. and I know I never will as long as I apply the mechanic’s protocol correctly every time.
Hey J.H.! If you want to know exactly what angle your feet are at, try this: With your feet under your armpits, and your feet parallel, if you step forward with your left foot half the length of your foot, you’re at 45 degrees relative to the parallel foot stance you were just at; a quarter of your foot length is 22.5, and 3/4’s of your foot length forward is 67.5.
For those who want to know what angle their foot is ‘turned’ to, if your foot looks be at 10 o’clock (or 2 o’clock), then it’s 30 degrees relative to parallel (or 9 o’clock); at 11 (or 1), it’s 60 degrees.
Based on some of the footage I’ve seen of you, your feet are pretty close to 45 degrees (from a line perpendicular to the target line). And you say you set up closed to the target line, but at impact your shoulders are parallel to the target line. So you may set up a few degrees closed to the target line, but impact doesn’t lie, especially if there is no curve to the ball you’re hitting and your on target.
Of course, your right in that everyone will have a different setup point to swing from. But since very few people carry a protractor anymore, I hope my “quick and dirty” method will help.
The end resultant of the swing mechanics/geometry is to arrive at impact with a closed shoulder line which has to deliver the club from one direction only ..in to out… the ‘degree’ of in to out is proportional to how the ball is tracking relative to its target direction actuality.
You are not understanding my ‘address’ positioning to ‘impact’ positioning of the shoulder girdle settings.. what you are seeing at address is a partly initiated backswing because of the ‘back cocking’ of the shoulders.. ..that address angle is not my ‘impact’ angle.
As well you say ‘impact doesn’t lie’.. and for all intents and purposes you are correct..however in this case as I am hitting the ball straight to the target it is not actually a ‘straight’ to the target geometry application… my club is traveling in to out at impact .. therefore if I was shoulder aligned parallel to the target line the ball would go to the right of the target ..Elementary path direction influence.
For my club to be traveling in to out at impact (which it does categorically) and my ball flight to be tracking straight to the target ( or slightly drawing back to it) I have to be actually be aligned a bit left of the target at impact and my ball flight is in reality from a technically correct geometry perspective a ‘straight push’ to the target…
These mechanics are not easy to digest and understand …however, the simplicity of them is just the indisputable laws of club path and face application to the ball at impact and an easier way of guaranteeing those laws are consistently applied in the same manner every time.
What I am trying to do with the setup procedure for players is to simplify the procedure to that of ‘abouts’ rather than absolute specification numbers… the ‘Core principals’ are the objective at the end of the day..how you get those ‘Core principals’ in place are pursuant to individual trial and error testing.. one mans ’45 degs’ can be another mans ’65 degs’ ..or ’25 degs’ etc etc.
The process is non-negotiable in the ‘Core Principles’ ..it has margins of flexibility in the other preparatory facets of the Core Principals.
HI AGAIN JH. I have been practicing this action since my last comment and I have been striking the ball very well. I still have some trouble with longer irons but a 3 hybrid worked very well. I tried to test it against the conventional set up but that felt very strange now. There is no way my brain wants me to swing that way.
This Chanel Lock swing has me hooked. I find it so easy to hit the ball this way. Less thin shots, less fat shots. The pulling action added another dimension to make this swing easier to get the club to release. There is no way I will ever go back to a conventional swing. I love this idea. Pure genius.
Many thanks . Tony P.S. I moved the left foot from the open position as you appear to do and it feels and looks like Hogan’s feet alignment both toes pointed slightly towards target.but still an open position. Hope that makes sense. Still staying closed locked shoulders for the strike. Is this ok? thanks
Absolutely ok to keep the shoulders closed/locked back for the strike..in fact its what you ‘have’ to do to maintain the channel lock path for the club to the ball… I will be doing a video with some drills to help you with that hopefully in the next couple of days… My audio transmitter for my remote video recording expired today and I can’t get another until the end of next week but I may be able to scrape through with one of my old boom microphones ..I will see if one of them is still ok and working.
I know what you mean about setting up with the old conventional forward ball position and how bad it feels after the Channel Lock back ball positioning… I could never go back to a forward ball position …I feel totally unbalanced setting up to a forward ball position now.
J H i told myself i was not going to try this but i gave in to it ,took a wedge over the park and hit some good shots so came back got the six iron and was blown a way . Balls landing 4 feet from each other,just had to try the 3 wood and hit with a 5 yard draw.I even got my 23 year old son in on it and he was hitting 8 irons out of the middle and now the hard work starts . cheers rex
Believe me ..this swing is the ‘real deal’…I hit exactly the same starting direction shots every time now… just to show a guy the accuracy of the swing yesterday I hit 20 pitch shots from 110 yards virtually rapid fire and every one was inside a 20ft circle and 2 hit the flag…it was like the swing is a virtual program ‘entity’ in that it just does the same thing every time if you apply it in the correct sequence protocol.
You have seen a lot of different swing types from me on my channel before..but I can assure you if I had found this swing some time ago you would never have seen the ‘searching experimental’ range of swings that I was forced to come up with in my quest for the ‘Right’ swing type that I instinctively knew had to be out there.
How I continue my channel now in the vein it has always been which was, of course, that of ‘looking’ for the ‘best’ way to swing a Golf Club… I have that now…so it will I guess be all about refining the specifics to suit individual players differences of physicality etc..there will be the nuances of the short shots and shot shaping that will need to be addressed so there will still be plenty to keep me occupied no doubt…