Update: Just came back from 2 hours of focused practice. The narrower stance and straight legs made all the difference for me. Basically never missed a shot. Manager was watching and I was calling every shot I was going to hit. He was amazed! Never missed my call shots from 60 degree through driver.
He then asked me to explain what I was doing because he said everything I was doing was the opposite of all he reads! I said, yep…and does the flight of the ball lie? I got him started on the channel lock and within about 10 minutes he was hitting shots he had never hit. He just stared at the shots in amazement. He now is going to your golf site to get the finer points. I told him, he needs no other guidance and to throw all other techniques away…this one works. He agreed.
You make so much sense JH. As a disciple of Yogi since 1981, so much of channel lock makes sense to me. Am still having issues of playing ball back far enough, because Yogi played it more forward and hit on upswing. But the radius lock definitely makes sense and I have used that on putting and chipping for years also.
Yogi stiffened his right leg as he went back. People don’t realize that. He rotated around the rear axis. Straightening the right leg turning away is a key I have used for years. He told me “the flight of the ball never lies.” “If you hit the ball and it goes straight and feels terrible, keep doing it until it feels good!.” Pretty good advice! Everyone has always said to me, “How do you hit it so long when you look like you are swinging half speed.”
Yet, my swing speed in prime was over 115. You have really helped me to reconnect with Yogi and add some of channel lock and radius lock. With all the garbage being taught on Golf Channel and other teachers, it is easy to begin to question what made you good in the first place. Will keep you posted on my progress. Thank you for having the balls, like “Yogi” to be different!
One of the truly great regrets I have is not being able to see Yogi swing and actually talk with him about ‘his’ swing thoughts…his swing was IMO all about ‘thoughts/feels’ and not specific mechanics … his swing setup and ignition time phasing was millisecond precise which meant his brain activation circuitry switched on at precisely the same uptake rate every time .
Moe Norman’s phasing was exactly the same as well… I measured hundreds of his swing preparatory pre swing and backswing ignition processes and they just didn’t vary at all…like as Yogi… millisecond precise.
The rear Vertical axis is I believe where the Golf swing emphasis should be applied ..its the dominant/sensory side of the body for 99% of people but invariably never gets utilised to its true potential … the real stabilisation capability of the dominant side of the body to support the speed producers which are the arms/hands is never taken advantage of with a forward positioned golf ball at address.
I have always been an ..’Outside Of The Box’ thinker and will continue to be so .. and if you think about that why would you ever want to confine yourself to thinking only within the confines of ‘the box’ your whole life …
An interesting thing happened only yesterday… I was doing a video and a teaching Pro I hadn’t seen for a while came over and sat down and watched me do the video… when I finished he said ..’what the hell was that all about’…you look crazy in your setup but were stripping the ball .. I went through what I was doing and after he a dozen shots he said…’ you just destroyed my teaching career’… how can I go back to teaching and tell everyone that all teaching to date has been totally wrong .. because it clearly has been.
I told him that I felt exactly the same and was so annoyed that I had wasted my entire golfing life to date trying to apply a totally flawed procedure … however he took no consolation from my own admission….
Yogi would have made fortune if he had the internet to his disposal as we do. No one teaches “see, feel, trust” by standing tall, locked back leg and then the channel lock setup. This way of hitting has taken the complete stress away from my replaced left hip! AMAZING! Have also picked up a 10 to 20 yards on my irons and at times, 40 to 50 yards on my driver. Can power fade it or power draw it at will. Same with the irons.
My chipping and pitching also has improved dramatically and am now trying to incorporate into my putting. Did much better with that part today. As you know, Yogi preached his way for his entire life, but the PGA hated him.
He would have won out had the internet been his platform. He still has the prettiest swing of all time in my opinion. Moe was great, but not pretty.
Yogi is my favorite all time golf swing… no one had his swing flow or majesty of movement…if ever a swing could be classified as ‘ Artistic’ it had to be his,
The guy I knew that had lessons from Yogi said Yogi didn’t walk ..he ‘floated’ … he really did move differently to anyone else I have ever seen.. you would have seen him just walking around the teaching facility when he wasn’t swinging and I bet you saw the ‘floating’ type movement he displayed when he was just walking normally.
I hit a bunch of shots this afternoon in a howling cross head wind and the ball just bored holes in the wind.. a guy was complaining about a new TaylorMade sand wedge he had just bought and how it was badly balanced .. I was on my way to my car and I just said.. ‘so the wedge is not a good one eh’ … let me have a hit with it.. there was a flag at 40 yards and the first ball stopped 4 ft from the hole and the second ball rolled up and touched the first ball .. I gave the wedge back to the guy and said it did have an unbalanced feel and maybe he should cut his losses and sell it quickly before it becomes used… he was speechless…as
I walked away I just said over my shoulder to come tomorrow and I will show him how to use an ‘unbalanced’ wedge… Channel Lock will do a lot of that type of stuff in the future.
Loved the explanations JH! So you would say the golf swing is more of a left hand pull than a right hand dominant? There’s always a big debate, but you hear people like Moe and Ben Hogan talk about pulling so hard with there left hand and squeezing really hard with the last 3 fingers.
Do you squeeze your left hand really hard like you’re trying to draw blood?
I personally think that the lead hand definitely should ‘start’ the backswing and start the ‘downswing’.in both those cases the ‘starting’ is to establish a correct anatomic hierarchical sequencing… I say that because I think it is the ‘distal ‘ part of the swing body components ( the ‘connector’ parts to the golf club) that should always lead the swing process …I know the lead foot/hip is really the true precursor of body component sequencing on the downswing but unless you the lead hand going first in the downswing you will have a tough time getting the lead shoulder top stay closed long enough in the downswing to impact.
As far as pressure amounts in the lead back fingers and hand pad I guess the maximum amount that you can apply without compromising your range of lead hand wrist cocking on the back swing and down cocking… Moe did hold on super tight with his lead hand but he was left handed remember and had a better than average amount of lead wrist flexibility because of that…as well he could grip really tight with his lead fingers but have his lead forearm super soft which was crazy.
Getting the balance of the lead hand dominance is a tough thing to do.. because you just need an ‘initial’ dominance to get things underway on the down swing and then be able to curtail that dominance at the right time so as to not impeded the application of the dominant hand through impact.. its just a thing you have to work on very diligently but it really is very important in the Channel Lock swing because you need to get the lead hand pulling early in the downswing to ensure as much of a straight line attack to the ball before impact.. I will do more on that aspect going forward.
I really believe the traditional Golf swing has always had the ball position flaw which could never allow any golfer to trap the attack path of their club to the ball every swing.. and as result path delivery variations could occur at any time… that cannot happen with the Channel Lock geometry protocol… I don’t want to seem big headed but I categorically know why no Professional Golfer has been able to hit the ball consistently in the same starting direction ( Moe Norman/Count Yogi excluded of course) and that is because the traditional forward positioned Golf ball simply doesn’t allow a trapped delivery path of the golf club.
I would love to spend a few days with Tiger… I know I could get him back on track.. the protocol is infallible… apply it correctly and you start the ball in the same direction every shot.
You asked about why amateurs have trouble hitting long irons and generally finding the sweet spot consistently… I think it’s because they do not have a consistent radius lock in their swings which makes it hard to swing on a consistent fixed length arc …much like a a piece of string tied to a nail ..if you keep the string tight what ever is on the end of the string will arrive at the same spot at the bottom of the arc every time .
The other thing is being able to stay in posture shape at impact consistently .. if you move your upper spine forward or backward or up or down during the swing the radius changed dramatically in its distance and the path direction of travel … players that consistently hit towards the toe of the club at impact are usually moving backwards away from the ball at impact..conversly people who hit in the heel of the club are usually falling forward into the ball at impact.
So overall good ball strikers have good radius locks in their swings ..in layman’s terms.. they just stay in their address body ‘shape’ at impact… Tom Watson credits just that for his quality of ball striking.. he says ‘just maintain your address posture through impact as the most important thought application.
hi JH….is it correct to say you are achieving what Moe managed – hitting the ball straight…the KEY being the shoulder turn and chin pointing bottom right…..i believe Moe looked pretty much at the same angles in the downswing as well….However, you have managed to takeaway all that extra stuff – lead arm rod, slide and buckle and coming into the ball and made it so much simpler
Channel Lock is really nothing like Moe’s swing mechanics…Channel Lock requires a rear foot positioning of the Golf ball at address and a predominance of swing around the trail vertical axis of the body… there is never any disposition to swing the club towards the target ..only towards the ball in a straight line from ‘beside’ the body…not ‘in front’ of the body.
The intention is to hit the ball from ‘beside’ the body as an arm/hand attack line…not ‘in front’ of the body with an attack path moving past the center of the body towards the target..the swing is way ‘different’ to Moe’s swing.
I have been practicing this swing since the 2nd week you put it up. Evolving with you. I am a second year player, 61 yrs, finally getting into the mid to high 80’s. The last two rounds, using your swing, 84 and 85, have been my two lowest and most accurate rounds. I use Moe”s stance with club 4″ to 12″ behind like Moe, getting part of my shoulder turn done.
Single plane. I stand farther back. Today I experimented with this exact variation, moving left shoulder much more into the swing, using Moe’s stance. Absolute best control practice I have ever had using your technique today. Amazing how consistent. It just hits the balls far more in center of club with more power but feels easier and they go a club or club and half farther.
I have been using the DeVinci combined with this-are some similarities between the two- for chipping. Having used the DeVinci, I actually feel, for me, it was a pre-cursor to the channel. Great piece of inventive creation, at least for my swing. Very simple. Beautiful concept
I really believe this swing concept/process will be applicable to everyone with great effectiveness if they apply the protocol in its sequenced application …it’s purely a specific body geometry that if applied locks the club head into a specific tracking path to the ball every time…it is a simple process as far as the applied geometry goes ..it just takes a bit of body feeling adjustment to get on top of it.
I tried out the swing today and it felt weird until I swung, I had some of the straightest ball flight ever! I started to think:
This must be a very tiny taste of what Moe Norman must have felt with every swing
I hit my 7 iron very well, but occasionally hit the ball fat. My 3 iron I hit fat ALOT. Any thoughts as to why? I think I may have the ball too far back, not sure. I can’t believe how amazing this swing feels and I am only just starting with it!!!
Thanks for the videos JH!, I feel like this swing will be up there with Moe Norman, and Count Yogi!
All the best!
The ball is not ‘to far’ back ..probably not back ‘enough’ in reality.
Hitting the ball fat will come about as a result of the trail shoulder not being kept back and closed coming into impact …fat shots are usually steep attack angles as well ..if you really keep the shoulders closed and the chin riveted back at impact you will not be steep into the ball ..just try what you think is a crazy back positioned ball at address..it probably will end up only being where you really need it to be..its just that you have never experienced a ball position requirement of the extreme nature as this is and your brain initially just won’t comply with the extreme requirement difference of the ball position..
Just play the ball way back and and hit some half shots keeping you head riveted back in place and the shoulders closed way up at impact.. don’t look for the ball for 2 secs after impact…keep the closed up finish position for a while after impact…that will give you the feeling of the extreme difference you need to apply in this swing.
I have hit probably 5000 shots with the swing now and haven’t hit ‘one’ to the left of the target line as a pull/drag shot .. and I know I never will as long as I apply the mechanic’s protocol correctly every time.
Hey J.H.! If you want to know exactly what angle your feet are at, try this: With your feet under your armpits, and your feet parallel, if you step forward with your left foot half the length of your foot, you’re at 45 degrees relative to the parallel foot stance you were just at; a quarter of your foot length is 22.5, and 3/4’s of your foot length forward is 67.5.
For those who want to know what angle their foot is ‘turned’ to, if your foot looks be at 10 o’clock (or 2 o’clock), then it’s 30 degrees relative to parallel (or 9 o’clock); at 11 (or 1), it’s 60 degrees.
Based on some of the footage I’ve seen of you, your feet are pretty close to 45 degrees (from a line perpendicular to the target line). And you say you set up closed to the target line, but at impact your shoulders are parallel to the target line. So you may set up a few degrees closed to the target line, but impact doesn’t lie, especially if there is no curve to the ball you’re hitting and your on target.
Of course, your right in that everyone will have a different setup point to swing from. But since very few people carry a protractor anymore, I hope my “quick and dirty” method will help.
The end resultant of the swing mechanics/geometry is to arrive at impact with a closed shoulder line which has to deliver the club from one direction only ..in to out… the ‘degree’ of in to out is proportional to how the ball is tracking relative to its target direction actuality.
You are not understanding my ‘address’ positioning to ‘impact’ positioning of the shoulder girdle settings.. what you are seeing at address is a partly initiated backswing because of the ‘back cocking’ of the shoulders.. ..that address angle is not my ‘impact’ angle.
As well you say ‘impact doesn’t lie’.. and for all intents and purposes you are correct..however in this case as I am hitting the ball straight to the target it is not actually a ‘straight’ to the target geometry application… my club is traveling in to out at impact .. therefore if I was shoulder aligned parallel to the target line the ball would go to the right of the target ..Elementary path direction influence.
For my club to be traveling in to out at impact (which it does categorically) and my ball flight to be tracking straight to the target ( or slightly drawing back to it) I have to be actually be aligned a bit left of the target at impact and my ball flight is in reality from a technically correct geometry perspective a ‘straight push’ to the target…
These mechanics are not easy to digest and understand …however, the simplicity of them is just the indisputable laws of club path and face application to the ball at impact and an easier way of guaranteeing those laws are consistently applied in the same manner every time.
What I am trying to do with the setup procedure for players is to simplify the procedure to that of ‘abouts’ rather than absolute specification numbers… the ‘Core principals’ are the objective at the end of the day..how you get those ‘Core principals’ in place are pursuant to individual trial and error testing.. one mans ’45 degs’ can be another mans ’65 degs’ ..or ’25 degs’ etc etc.
The process is non-negotiable in the ‘Core Principles’ ..it has margins of flexibility in the other preparatory facets of the Core Principals.