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Hey JH, love what you’re doing with the Davinci Code swing. I’ve been
playing around with pinning my right arm to my torso and find contact is
solid! But I find (at least from me) I need to focus on the pivot more than
firing the upper quadrant. If I fire the upper quadrant I come over the top
but if I fire my pivot I don’t. I guess some of that stuff is just what a
player needs to feel :-).
Tom Ross and Lee Comeaux got the address position from Martin Ayers, or at
least Martin Ayers was teaching that about 5 years ago (Martin Ayers Most
Powerful move in golf – Youtube video). I don’t know who created it or did
it first but I remember watching that video and thinking that is a crazy
idea. Martin, Mike Maves and Steve Elkington worked on that stuff in the
Secret in the Dirt series. I’m sure you probably knew that but just
throwing it out there if you didn’t. Keep up the cool videos!
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Martin is a good friend of mine, we have spent many many hours together on
the practice tee….you will only come over the ball firing the upper trail
shoulder quadrant if yo let your lower half mass move to the ball as you
fire the shoulder quadrant… you have to balance the upper body mass
moving out to the ball line with the lower mass like the posterior and
upper legs etc .
But its ok to fire the lower pivot components if that gives you a good
In yesterdays videos I mentioned the reason you could come over the ball
firing the shoulder quadrant… you might have a look at video no1 from
That sounds like what I feel , I can throw it out as much as I can but I
cant outrace my pivot because of my reverse circle down my right leg..
With your coordination in the Golf Swing I dont think you could do anything
out of the correct sequence…. but your particular ‘Fail Safe’ mechanism
is a good one anyway, can you send me your current email address.
What is your ball placement? Hope you feel better soon. Praying for you.
I dont have a ball ‘position’ as such…. I just move my feet around to my
balance points and when I am comfortable that is my ball position….for me
its just an instinctive ‘balance/feel ‘ thing…I really couldn’t tell you
where I play the ball from normally… other than to say its normally
vertically under my hands with most shots …’as a feeling’…if I need a
lower shot I just instinctively play the ball back a bit and progress my
hands forward at address.
I am not a ‘ball position’ teacher…. I just tell students to hit shots
until they get the ball flight they want and that is ‘the’ ball position
JH that setup is Count Yogi from the start
I try to analyze his swing and couldnt figure how he could generate so much
clubhead speed now u gave me a perspective on whats hes doing
amazing Get well soon JH
The Count did produce more power pro rata relative to physical size than
anyone who has ever played the game…. he of course had a very long and
wide swing arc which he maintained better than anyone on the
downswing……. not sure what you mean by the relativity of the Davinci
Code setup from the start with the Yogi.
i mean at the start of his setup his right hand is in line with the club
shaft and bent left wrist
different from what is being taught nowadays of doing the opposite sort of.
OK… understand now.
kikokika1 the swingsurgion.com
JH, great stuff as always, you are soooo close IMHO. It is 1. The JH Tricep
Curl ( not bicep ), coupled with 2. The No Forearm Rotation backswing (
maybe even a slight counter clock rotation, if anything ), coupled with 3.
The Mike Austin Pivot Action, and finally 4. The Lee Commeaux “Slap”
Release ( Tribochet with no forearm or wrist rotation at all ). I feel
strongly you “feel” like you hit the outside of the ball however you must
Resist any wrist rotation or “polishing” action as you said. Try the slap
Stable, with no polishing or rolling action, it will go dead straight. If
you don’t polish, it forces your right shoulder to stay on plane and work
“down, under, and up”. You slap Stable thru the ball, NO wrist rotation or
roll over. Dan Shaugher style. If you polish or roll, you run the risk of
becoming too handsy. IMHO. Doing these things I lowered my handicap to 9
from 15, and its really on the way down from here.
Feel better mate !
My ‘Polish’ action is a ‘level linear’ motion… it feels as though my
right wrist area is just an extension of my right outside forearm relative
to its working plane if you can conceptualize that hand/forearm formation
through impact, I cant roll my hands independent of my forearms so the
movement through the ball is very stable and for me very level.
Because my shoulder plane is more level on the back swing than most people
I dont have much ‘down/under/up’ in my action..its more its more
‘out/over.around’…if I personally get to much down pitch in my trail
shoulder I cant get on the outside of the ball at impact and to much ‘down
pitch angle’ of my shoulders stalls up my lead hip shoulder movement.
Of course this is just my personal mode of body plane movement… I like to
feel my trail shoulder high and level coming into the ball, but I know
where you are coming from with your own feelings and plane attack.
I’m wondering if it’s just a feeling that the ball is being hit on the
outside. It seems to me that the laws of physics dictate that the ball will
leave the club face at 90 degrees which if you actually hit the outside of
the ball would send it off to the left of the target line. If the actual
strike is on the outside of the ball and the ball is not heading left then
perhaps there’s some weird gear effect that prevents the ball from going
I am sure its a type of ‘gear effect’ in play…… however you certainly
cant have the club face closed a lot at impact or as with any type of
strike the ball will start left initially (if you are right handed that
is)…. I know I am definitely hitting the ball on the outside because the
ball flight is different ….and thinking about hitting the outside of the
ball has taken my delivery line attack angle from 6/7 degrees in to out to
virtually dead straight and its also reflected in my ball flight shape of
normally a 2/4 yard draw to a virtually straight shot.
here is swing ; i ll take advices thanks you are and inspiration
That, a good little drill… if you are trying to hit a little hold off
pitch shot with a bit of soft drop and stop spin.. the action looks
repeatable and you look comfortable with it… I cant comment on the
reasoning mechanics of the shot because I dont know what you are trying to
achieve with the action, but all in all the action is solid and
mechanically sound looking.
Hey jh hope all is well.that right arm tuck pivot is really good stuff on
the short controlled stuff but the reality is the right is firing out in
front of it on full swings.don’t get me wrong I injoy swing theory and
thought. Where obviously on the same plane.its the lower body that has
eludded me so I can not pay no mind.if I just get the left shoulder out of
the way the right side does the rest.standinthehandlecheers.