Don’t Elevate Hands Golf Swing.


tony. rob - February 13, 2016

Hi JHWhy you don’t get more views bewilders me. I think your content is
some of the best on you tube. I tried your short swing last year with
great success. Have not been out yet this year, too cold for me body gets
stiff. I am going to try this now. Will report back.best regardsTony

    tony. rob - February 13, 2016

    +tony. rob Well JH just got back from the range. Very cold wind into and
    from the right, quite strong wind speed. Hit the ball superb over all but
    could only get 130yds ish maybe a bit more into that cold wind. Best I
    could do today but the strike and release was great. looking forward to
    trying again when its a bit warmer. keep em coming and thanks again.

    tony. rob - February 13, 2016

    +tony. rob that 130yds was with a seven iron

    1atomicgolf - February 13, 2016

    +tony. rob Hi Tony,
    The distance will come when you get used to letting the shoulders turn
    ‘more’ on the back swing…at the present you probably are so transfixed
    with the new move ‘feel’ that the shoulder turn and range of movement is
    restricted to much, you still have to turn your shoulders with ‘any’ back
    swing movement…its what creates the power storage .
    regards JH

    1atomicgolf - February 13, 2016

    +tony. rob Tony I only use my channel as a storage locker for my videos, I
    have never promoted my videos to the public , the core bunch of guys that I
    teach get their videos directly from me and do not use this channel for
    their viewing of their videos, frankly I dont have time to respond to a lot
    of people which might be the case if I had a ‘public’ profile .
    I make the videos available to people if they stumble upon them
    accidentally , no more than that, and frankly I am not looking to push my
    views on the golf swing on anyone, for me its just a journey of fun and
    discovery, its great that guys like you occasionally find my site and enjoy
    my vids.
    regards JH

Daniel “Daniel-san” Mammone - February 13, 2016

Hey JH, Love your work buddy. Quick question do you know anything about the
count yogi swing? and If so can you do a video on it . Cheers mate :)

    1atomicgolf - February 13, 2016

    +daniel mammone Hi Daniel,
    Do I know anything about the ‘Count Yogi’ swing…. I think I do… and I
    am absolutely besotted by it.
    I have studied the Yogi swing with incredible interest because I have
    actually spoken with people that saw the great man play and give his
    thousands of exhibitions and they ‘all’ have said he was a ‘magical’
    swinger of the golf club, I would love to do a video on the ‘Count’ because
    I believe he actually was the ‘only’ person that has ever had a 365 day
    Golf Swing, Moe Norman did as well but not with the unbelievable
    repeat-ability that the ‘Count’ had, which is really saying something,
    might do a video today at the end of some lessons that I have.
    I have been liaising with the Count’s Godson, Timothy Nichols, he has a
    website called YOGI GOlf , if you go to that site you will see at the
    bottom of the page a section called the ‘The Hensby Scientific Letters’,
    they are not that scientific as such but they do elaborate on what I feel
    and see in the Count’s swing process.
    regards JH.

Chip Satterly - February 15, 2016

Hi JH,

Yes, I too found your site quite by accident (while looking for info on Moe
Norman) and have REALLY been enjoying your content.

WRT to your concept on torque and the takeaway, it reminds of a video clip
I saw on Moe.
He describes years of practice trying to keep the back of his driver head
(and thus, his hands) very low on his takeaway as he tries to push a coin
back away from the ball.

Kirk Junge has some videos , which he has edited/enhanced, showing Moe
hitting the driver 50 times in a row both from the DTL view and face on
Of course, they are the SAME shot just replicated 50X, but by watching the
repeated swings you really get a FEEL for the great swing , rhythm and also
some of the nuances that you describe in YOUR Moe analysis.

For example, you talked about Moe’s “butting” the ball and I just couldn’t
see it until watching those 50 swings over and over again.
NOW, it’s so clear!!



    1atomicgolf - February 15, 2016

    +Chip Satterly I have been called the ‘Accidental Coach’ lots of times by
    people who have found me by accident….Moe told me he tried to skin his
    knuckles on the ground as he swung through the ball, as a ‘feeling’.. so
    much did he want to keep pressuring down through the hitting area.
    You don’t see visually the process of ‘handle in club head out’ as an
    obvious look with Moe because he is backing away rearwards from the ball
    through impact which gives him more space in the area of his pelvis to
    hands location, but like all great ball strikers he did ‘handle in club
    head out’ as a process.
    The ‘butting’ is such a tough thing to do as a learning process because if
    you actually ‘think’ about doing that the normal application of moving the
    butt of the club at the ball tends to accentuate the handle of the club
    going towards the ball instead of towards the pelvis, Moe could do the
    butting and still ‘handle in club head out’ through the ball, which frankly
    showed how amazing the guy was in terms of his club /body/
    control/application etc.
    When I first tried the Butting process I hit a lot of flat shanks because I
    kept the butting going to long before I moved the handle in and the club
    head out, its an incredibly complex move and frankly I think thats why we
    only ever saw Moe strike the ball the way he did.
    regards JH PS . I dont promote my channel at all , its only a storage bin
    for my videos, if anyone finds it by accident I am happy for them to watch
    the videos , which is why I list them as public and not private,.

Mike Bailey - February 19, 2016

Never present the hozzle to the ball…i need to tell the wife, no one is
safe at the range when she is practicing, its like being inside a pin ball

    1atomicgolf - February 19, 2016

    +Saul Montanza The absolute easiest way to eliminate any form of ‘shanks’
    is to simply get the player to rotate the ‘toe’ of the cllubface ‘ over the
    ball… you cant shank if the hosel is moving away from the ball which it
    has to if you rotate the toe of the club thru impact…so simple, its
    amazing how it works.

martinavizcomm - March 5, 2016

Glad i found you now!! =)

    1atomicgolf - March 5, 2016

    +martinavizcomm Hope you get something that works for you, its what we all
    should be doing.. looking at ‘every’ type of swing information , there is
    an ‘answer’ for everyone relative to ‘their’ specific swing type and
    cheers JH

D Slatt - March 6, 2016

short back swing. Just dump the bucket on the grass already ! LOL

    1atomicgolf - March 6, 2016

    +D Slatt It is short now but I will lengthen it I hope maybe 30%… I have
    the flexibility to do that I just need to build up a program that my brain
    accepts relative to ‘letting’ me swing longer.
    I cant believe I kept walking that far to get balls to hit.. and how long
    it took me to bring the bucket over to where I was hitting, but you must
    remember I am 75 and that age brain doesn’t compute obvious remedies that
    quickly anymore, I think the real reason was I had a person walking around
    with the camera which I normally don’t have so it just put my normal
    stationary processes out of whack.. I think.. at least that’s my excuse.
    Cheers JH

james douris - March 11, 2016

Awesome videos. I used to watch moe give clinics when i was in daytona bch
at college. My college teammates played nine holes with him in 2002. Low
hands video is great. Look how low hogan, snead, trevinos hands were. Where
are you located JH?

    1atomicgolf - March 11, 2016

    +james douris Hi James, glad you like the videos, I am located in Australia
    on the North East Coast, that must have been a buzz for your buddies to
    actually play Golf with Moe, I feel so privileged to have seen him hit
    balls and spend time with him discussing his swing mechanics, we will never
    see anyone like him again, which , which is a shame.
    cheers JH

Craig Robb - March 14, 2016

Hey J.H, really enjoy your videos! You have helped my own game, I’ve
dropped about 10 strokes a round watching most of the lessons you currently
have posted. Thanks so much for sharing, please never stop ! Cheers!

    1atomicgolf - March 14, 2016

    +Craig Robb Hi Craig,
    Man that’s a big drop buddy, just glad ‘something’ worked for you, as I
    have said before the reason I do all the variations of the Golf Swing that
    I do is so there might be something that works for someone in their
    particular swing type, most of the stuff can be varied to suit individual
    applications etc, I have found there is always a ‘different’ tack everyone
    can take that can make their swing respond on most occasions.
    cheers JH

Elvis Presley - March 21, 2016

Handle in, club out…Mike Malaska….Finally they are more
teachers/coaches going down this route. The “traditional” swing is not
biomechanically good for the human body sine we are all levers, and not

    1atomicgolf - March 21, 2016

    +Elvis Presley ”Elvis Hasn’t Left The Building’….My reason for the
    ‘handle in clubhead out’ application is to make sure the handle of the club
    keeps moving in a semi circle to impact and beyond, if you let the handle
    get moving ‘out’ towards the ball instead of ‘inwards’ towards your body
    the lead arm will have to move away from the body which causes the club
    head to be directed to lineally on a path as apposed to it just tracking in
    a circular direction into and after impact.
    We certainly have a lot of ‘levers’ in our body structural makeup but we
    can still rotate around our vertical front and rear axis as we do in the
    turning part of the Golf Swing… however we don’t want the body rotating
    in the circular manner that it does and the hands/arms not coinciding with
    that circular directional process.
    I think all good teachers know that the handle in club head out has to
    happen in any golf swing, its just not highlighted by them enough I think,
    Mike Malaska is of course a very good teacher and he inherently knows the
    absolutes of the Golf Swing .
    cheers JH

BLACKCROW WALKING - March 28, 2016

I like your concepts. What you work on is very similar to what I do. I
think a lot of people simply don’t understand the arc of the swing and even
I get carried away doing something else, at times. When I trust my swing,
I make some excellent shots. Thanks for the video!!

    1atomicgolf - March 29, 2016

    +BLACKCROW WALKING “let’ the club head find its ‘own’ way I say, momentum
    unimpeded has an amazing ability to exert itself upon the club head in a
    very rep[eatable manner..if you only let it do so.
    cheers Jh

    BLACKCROW WALKING - March 29, 2016

    +1atomicgolf Agreed!!

D Martins - April 12, 2016

How far do you carry your 7 iron? Thanks.

Mark Sanders - April 15, 2016

Clubs made too upright nowadays, that’s a major factor in way people swing!
Practicing with clubs with a flatter lie angle would help achieve what
you’re alluding too!


The Colonel

    1atomicgolf - April 15, 2016

    +Mark Sanders Hi Mark,Couldn’t agree more, the manufacturers are just
    turning slices into ‘Pulls’ with the more upright clubs, if a player has
    normal two axis hands/arms type address setup where the hands are lower
    than those of a single axis high hands setup the flatter clubs would as you
    say in most instances be more beneficial.
    Someone who has a single axis type address like Moe Norman with high hands
    at address needs more upright lie clubs than std, its not widely known that
    Moe’s irons were in fact 3 degs up from std, I know that for a fact because
    I had one of his Natural Golf sets of irons, and all the sets I sold when I
    had the Moe Norman teaching School were 3 degs upright, but that lie spec
    clearly doesn’t suit a conventional low hands two axis swing type.
    It is a damning indictment of today’s manufacturers in how much they make
    clubs so upright, I have one of Ben Hogans Personally played drivers..an
    old McGregor 693 persimmon headed club, its lie is 51 degs , today’s
    drivers are 60 degs minimum , Hogans Driver is 43.6 inches long ( his irons
    were 5 degs flat, again I know for certain because put a set of his old
    spec irons on a loft lie machine at Colonial Golf club ), today’s drivers
    are 45 inch minimum , which means they need a super flat lie, not a super
    ‘upright’ lie, and we wonder why players today drive the ball so badly
    compared to the old days/drivers.
    Tiger is a perfect example , when he came on tour he played a Cobra steel
    shafted driver which was 43 inches long and had a lie of 56 degs, the same
    as Greg Norman used at the same time, when he went away from that spec he
    never hit the ball with the accuracy he did with the old flatter
    lie/shorter driver, nor did Greg Norman.
    cheers JH

maxxsee - July 31, 2016

I think your swingspeed is higher in this video

Nat McIntosh - September 1, 2016

wow jh , iwish I would have seen this utube earlier.great explaination of
what I call folding around the corner.motion going left firing the right

    1atomicgolf - September 1, 2016

    Hi Nat,
    This is one of my all time cornerstones for my own swing….it does work a
    treat if you get it right.
    cheers Jh.

Nat McIntosh - September 1, 2016

thanks again.cheers.

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