Moe Norman Hybrid Swing no 1


Lea Pustetto - December 12, 2015

great video jh. i get the throw back. i have been too robotic. i need to
just throw it back exactly like you said. can’t wait to get to driving
range. thanks again lea

    1atomicgolf - December 12, 2015

    +Lea Pustetto Hi Lea,
    It really is a very important facet of Moe’s mechanics which I have never
    heard discussed by anyone before, and what supports it is the clear use of
    it by Hogan in his swing, again I have never heard any of the so called
    aficionado’s of his swing mechanics make any reference to it, I truly
    believe it is hidden Gem of both Moe and Hogan’s golf swings.
    I do remember Moe telling me the second time I spent time with him that his
    swing balanced ‘him”… which I interpreted as the ‘orbital mass drag’
    factor created by the ‘throwing back’ of the club head, its so simple when
    you understand the dynamics effects in play when you do the throwback.
    regards JH

Lea Pustetto - December 12, 2015

yes jh. it makes a lot of sense. it starts you off beautifully and gets
your hands into position without thinking. i think you have indeed found a
hidden gem. as i said can’t wait to try it out. cheers lea .
oh is it a good idea to read the golfing machine by homer Kelly or is it
too complicated . cheers

    1atomicgolf - December 12, 2015

    +Lea Pustetto Hi Lea,
    ‘Without Thinking’… that is the secret I believe… well at least after
    the initial ‘activation’ of the hands to get the club head free wheeling
    into the back swing.
    I will be doing another video probably in the next day or so detailing what
    ‘without thinking’ really is for us a relative to the body’s automatic
    reactionary processes that take place every second just to keep us in place
    in space so to speak, I think it will help to understand the reason the
    throwback works as well as it does if it is left to its own natural devices.
    Is it good to read the ‘Golfing Machine’….yes and no, ‘Yes’ if you want
    to see how an ‘engineer’ perceives a Golf Swing relative to its theoretical
    ‘construction…with ‘construction’ being the intent and the futility of
    such an endeavor within the time frame a normal golf swing takes to perform.
    The ‘No’ argument is founded on the time you will waste trying to ingest a
    manifesto of ‘contrived’ bodily positions and the specific mental
    programming that is supposed to ‘make’ the body conform to the many
    required ‘stations’ that are required in the ‘Golf Machine’ doctrine.
    The Golf Swing can never be a multitude of individual thoughts and specific
    every-time required body component positioning, the Golf Machine teaches
    absolute positioning and sequencing of body parts … the body doesn’t work
    that way so you are going against its natural developed functioning
    processes…my advise…read it and understand what you ‘shouldn’t’ try to
    do with a golf swing.
    regards JH

    Lea Pustetto - December 13, 2015

    That sounds pretty right to me.i bought the other book ….his life story
    by mistake ( good read). And was wondering if it was worthwhile. Now i
    won’t bother. Thanks . I’ll. Go with moe Norman. Cheers thanks for the

Chabacano Maximus - December 24, 2015

Hello JH,
enjoying your videos very much. I’ve struggling with my swing for a while
now, and I’m looking to implement this hybrid swing of yours. looks very
repeatable. couple of questions, pls.: 1) is this swing the same as the one
in your other video tittled: “JH fit again powers up moe norman mechanics
2) are you using a weak grip, and 3) is you back foot (right) sightly
behind the front? if so how much? thanks in advance JH.

    1atomicgolf - December 25, 2015

    +Chabacano Maximus HI CM,
    My version of Moe’s swing has always been a ‘Hybrid’…the JH Fit Again’
    swing is ‘my’ version of Moe’s mechanics and basically what I have used
    when I talk about Moe’s swing in general.
    My grip is on the weak side for sure and that happens purely because of
    ‘my’ range of motion in my wrists and my palm /fingers length ratios , I
    have relatively short fingers and a longish palm so its difficult for me to
    have my right hand turned much to the right because my fingers come off the
    My right foot is somewhat behind my left at address but again that is
    because I like to feel ‘into’ my back swing at address, frankly for most
    people ( right Handed that is) I think the right foot back a little helps
    with weight shift and rotation .
    regards JH

    Chabacano Maximus - December 25, 2015

    JH, thanks so much for replying to my post so promptly. I actually hit the
    range today to try the swing and had some success. a lot of power (7 iron
    going 180 yards, long for me). I did have a few shots that went right. no
    slice though. just a straight shot to the right (like if I was aiming out
    there). any ideas why? impact felt solid… I notice you also do a little
    pre-turn at address where your head looks a little tilted and a little more
    weight on your left foot, is this accurate? thanks JH and thanks for
    explaining Moes theories so clearly, truly enjoy all the videos and
    stories. keep up the good work.
    David from california, us.

David Bowie - January 13, 2016

Hi JH,
I just came across your Moe Norman hybrid swing and the acceleration
videos. It’s just been three days it has changed my golf game. I’m a 7
index and I can’t believe it but my game is going to get even better. Just
like you said, “I can’t hit it any straighter” Thanks so much.

    1atomicgolf - January 13, 2016

    +David Bowie Hi David,
    You know the great thing about the Golf swing is that there is always
    “something” that we can try and to fit into ‘our’ swing that can make a
    difference, and frankly that’s why I explore ‘everything’ I can about swing
    mechanics, there are so many little keys/things that you can try that may
    get you an individual result, the ‘secret’ is out there.. as Hogan said we
    just need more ‘daylight’ to find it.
    regards JH

Ask Me - March 9, 2016

Have you checked out Jack kuykendalls e2e swing with the swop grip. He
should come up with a better name for it. However it’s amazing. I am a big
fan of moe norman and learned moe,s swing back in the 90,s. But Jack has
invented an even better and easier to repeat swing. It looks strange but it
works great. Even less moving parts and no power loss, with extreme
accuracy. I’m 55 and this swing will allow me to play good golf for another
30 years. just check it out. love your stuff.

    1atomicgolf - March 9, 2016

    +Ask Me I know of Jack because of the Natural Golf company he founded , I
    met him way back when I first started teaching the Moe Norman method…
    1992 …Jack of course was the person that brought Moe to prominence at
    that time,and got Moe to use the split grip and the big Natural Golf grips.
    Jack was/is the quintessential ‘mad scientist’ ….. he is a very smart guy
    intelligence wise and I dont think he will ever stop looking at ways to
    swing the Golf club differently.
    I haven’t seen e2e swing but I will surely look at it today, I am all for
    investigating’anything’ that I can use to make swinging a golf club
    easier…..or to just have more fun with the swing.
    cheers JH

D Martins - April 25, 2016

Is that what Duffner does as well?

    1atomicgolf - April 25, 2016

    +D Martins Certainly Duffner, and Hogan as well.

bigindian65 - May 4, 2016

This is awesome

    1atomicgolf - May 4, 2016

    +bigindian65 So many ways to hit the Golf ball, and invariably there is one
    that works for the individual, but you will never know which is ‘the’ swing
    for ‘you’ if you dont try a few like you are doing, glad this one is of
    interest to you.
    cheers JH

Steven Whitley - June 4, 2016

I don’t think that even the chaps at the Graves Golf Academy (Moe Norman
School) mention the idea of “throwing” the club back. This might be the
most important tip of all with regards to developing a solid single plan
swing – for me! Thanks.

    1atomicgolf - June 4, 2016

    Hi Steven,
    It just came up in general conversation with Moe when I asked him what he
    did in his backswing..he said just ‘tossed’ the club head back around his
    body ..and he showed me the motion which was for all intents and purposes
    just a ‘throwing’ action as if you were trying to throw the club head off
    the shaft if it was loose enough to fly off the shaft.
    I haven’t heard it mentioned by anyone else before….like you I think its
    a vital aspect of getting a a swing plane that is purely momentum based and
    self positioning as apposed to trying to ‘put’ the club into position or on
    cheers JH

    Steven Whitley - June 5, 2016

    I can actually hear how pure you are contacting the ball. What are your
    thoughts on “grip pressure”? I believe that Moe advocated that the trailing
    hand was just along for the ride? I gather this meant a fairly lose grip?
    Finally, with regards to this – can you wear a glove and still be as
    effective with this type of swing?

    1atomicgolf - June 5, 2016

    Moe had a strong grip pressure in his left hand..maybe a 7 out of 10, the
    right not nearly as strong, you must remember he was left handed so his
    lead hand/arm was his dominant strength mechanism, he had the ability to
    have the strong pressure left hand grip but could keep his forearms very
    soft which is very hard to do.
    Wearing a glove is no problem …I only stopped wearing a glove a year ago
    because I always had trouble getting the fit and feel thickness consistency
    with gloves generally, best thing I ever did frankly, I have so much more
    feel and control in my left hand now without the glove, it took me 2/300
    balls a day for a month to get the feeling in my left hand without a glove
    on but its so good now not having to worry about sweaty or wet gloves
    cheers JH.

Willie Phelan - September 20, 2016

Hi JHI’m looking at your video on Moe Hybrid Swing I am 64 is that to old
to learn the More Norman Swing. I have to say I am enjoying watching your

    1atomicgolf - September 20, 2016

    Hi Willie,
    64… to old to learn the Moe Swing… you know Moe was 67 when he changed
    to the two handed split grip himself, no you are certainly not to old.
    Its not necessary to learn the ‘absolute’ Moe mechanics , you can just take
    the basic elements of his mechanics and blend them into a ‘Hybrid’ version
    to suit your own physicality, glad you like the videos .
    cheers JH

Willie Phelan - September 20, 2016

Thanks JH,I am on the way to the driving range I will start working on some
of your Moe hybrid tips.Thanks a million.

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