Moe Norman Mechanics no 2


rrasmussen32 - June 4, 2015

I just wanted to thank you. I have been knocking around Moe’s swing for
years. 3 Natural Golf schools etc. Nobody really knew how he did it. You
do and if one watches your videos they will be able to replicate that
wonderful short swing and hit the ball straight. Amazing. You are
appreciated by this golfer.

    1atomicgolf - June 5, 2015

    +rrasmussen32 I teach a lot of guys around the World who are in my private
    category , these videos are sent to them but only as side issue stuff for
    general enjoyment, I do not promote these videos at all and only use
    Youtube as a storage area for the vids, anyone who finds them like you are
    more than welcome to them.
    My own personal swing goals have been to hit the ball to my ‘target’ as
    best I can, hence I have never focused on distance as such, ‘short’ in the
    fairway is way better than ‘Long’ in the weeds.
    As well I try to get the swing going as soon as I can like Moe did because
    it stops the brain from second guessing my intention, I can hit the ball
    all over the face of the club and because the swing is short and on plane
    it still goes pretty straight most of the time, Moe Told me he tried to hit
    the ball on the 3rd groove of the face as optimum but first/second or
    fourth groove still got the ball going ‘where’ he wanted it to go.
    Glad you like the vids. JH.

secretbelowthegrass - June 7, 2015

Thanks for posting 

    1atomicgolf - June 8, 2015

    +secretbelowthegrass Your Welcome, thanks for looking. JH

Michael Saif - July 26, 2015

Where in Australia are you and do you do private lessons?

robert finney - September 20, 2015

Hi JH Excellent description of Moe’s swing, I have been learning this
method a year now and my handicap has dropped dramatically, do get some
strange looks at my club when playing

    1atomicgolf - September 22, 2015

    Hi Robert,
    It doesnt matter how people look at you when you swing as long as they
    ‘look sad’ when they have to ‘pay’ you their losing bet at the end of the
    game…..Jim Furyk gets a lot of ‘funny’ looks with his swing…but plenty
    of smiles from his bank manager.

Ben Yoshi Kho - March 9, 2016

Hi Master JH,…..I want to contact you , where are you? Ben H Kho

hey0mcfly - April 2, 2016

Just a quick question. I noticed you set up with a high tee for your
drives. Is this needed for the mo swing on driver? Many thanks

    1atomicgolf - April 3, 2016

    +hey0mcfly I personally like to ‘hit up’ on my driver …I believe its why
    I have always been a pretty straight driver of the golf ball, if you make
    yourself ‘hit up’ as a swing direction its amazing how straight line the
    club head has to go at the ball to achieve the ‘up’ action, so in order to
    ‘hit up’ with my driver I just find it way easier with the ball teed up
    higher, as well the higher teeing of the ball makes me stay back and behind
    the hit at impact.
    cheers Jh

    1atomicgolf - April 3, 2016

    +1atomicgolf Sorry, I didn’t address the core question, I think if you are
    doing the Moe type swing it will promote a ‘hit up ‘ club head travel path
    so its advantageous to have the ball teed higher than normal, and I have
    just found that if the ball is teed up higher it tends to keep your head
    back and behind the ball at impact just as a result of the hitting up

Allen Davis - April 22, 2016

1atomicgolf just a quick question about the grip I’ve been using Moe’s
swing for about 10 yrs off and on and started out with the 10 finger grip
now I use overlapping grip what graves golf teaches. what’s your opinion on
the best grip to use out of the two ? I like the 10 finger but struggle
with hooking fairway woods . I’m currently a 4 handicap trying to get to

    1atomicgolf - April 22, 2016

    +Allen Davis Hi Allen,
    I have taught a big number of people over the years the Moe Norman
    mechanics but I have never pitched the split grip to any of them, if they
    wanted to use that grip I went along with them but my recommendation was
    always for the normal Vardon type grip because that’s what Moe used when he
    played at his peak.
    Moe got away with the change when he signed on with Natural Golf because he
    was left handed and he pulled so hard with his left hand (lead hand) which
    was his ‘dominant hand that he negated the normal dominance of the trail
    hand to take over the delivery of the club head to the ball.
    I just found that with the split grip there was to ‘much’ dominance of the
    trail hand which caused on most occasions flipping or excessive trail
    forearm rotation before impact, and I felt the normal set of the shoulders
    was compromised because the trail hand/arm was pushed further down the grip
    at address.
    Moe told me he changed his grip so the Natural Golf process would have
    something really different to promote and the fact that he didn’t play
    anymore it didn’t worry him as such , anytime you have the dominant hand
    structured to be more independent as it is with the split grip there is a
    propensity for it to ‘lead’ the downswing attack rather than be the
    ‘follower it needs to be.
    Its a bit strange you only hook your 3 wood with the split grip, , but if
    you like the split grip and its only the 3 wood hooking that bothers you
    you could always get rid of those hooks with a bit of structural changing
    of ball position or pressure reduction in the trail hand etc.
    cheers JH PS. the only players I taught that were reasonably successful
    with playing the split grip were in fact left handed people playing right
    handed, same as Moe.

    Allen Davis - April 22, 2016

    I’ve been successful with both grips . I have a problem with my trail hand
    taking over just watched your video today going to try letting my right
    hand ride and pulling with my left tomorrow

    1atomicgolf - April 23, 2016

    +Allen Davis I think you are on the right track with that thinking.
    cheers Jh

    Allen Davis - April 24, 2016

    +1atomicgolf well tried it out and wow is all I can say 1st time in a long
    time I could flush my 2 hybrid 230 yards consistently. I played all my
    shots like you showed in video with javelin down the line just a short
    backswing throwing the club back and pulling the butt of the club to the
    ball I was shocked of the outcome. my score wasn’t the greatest 77 but for
    once I had confidence in what I was doing. I’ve tried pulling with left
    before but I seen what I was doing wrong in the past taking club straight
    back and coming down too steep on downswing. yesterday I came more inside
    and up and coming back more on a shallower line . I also noticed if I grip
    with my right hand too tight I’d hit a draw so id lighten it up and get
    back to hitting it straight. just want to say thanks for the advice and the
    videos you put on YouTube!

    1atomicgolf - May 2, 2016

    +Allen Davis Happy to help, glad some of the stuff is getting a result.
    cheers JH

Thomas Thomast - May 22, 2016

Also, I’ve read that the sweet spot is actually a little “above” he center
of face. So teeing higher would seem to help do that.

Allen Davis - June 11, 2016

I’ve been messing with my grip a little come to find out I’ve had more
success with a conventional grip with Moe’s swing instead of using a strong
right hand grip and neutral grip with my right what’s your opinion
1atomicgolf on this

    1atomicgolf - June 11, 2016

    Hi Allen,
    I have always used a conventional type grip with Moe Norman’s swing, which
    he did all his actual playing days as well, he only changed to the split
    grip when he hooked up with Natural Golf, and when Moe had his normal type
    Vardon grip it was quite normal in the amount of ‘strong’ as apposed to
    ‘neutral’ orientation of the hands on the grip, to put a description on his
    grip it was fairly neutral in orientation , certainly not ‘strong’ in any
    cheers JH.

    Allen Davis - June 11, 2016

    +1atomicgolf thanks for the info

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