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Hi JH – Once you’ve added a bit more atomic particle detail to get the fundamentals of this swing ironed out, will you also be doing some stuff on specialised shots (like ball below and above feet) using this technique? With regard flop shots , I saw your video using this action in a bunker , so I suspect its the same stroke.
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To tell you the truth I haven’t tried the process with anything other than normal type shots … I think the specialty shots will incorporate the same basic principal of application but with a bit more tolerance applied relative to the the severity of the connection/hook back etc.
JH, could you explain the purpose of doing the “hookback” given that the ball is long gone by the time you start hooking the arms back? I’m confused as to what this does to make the ball strike better unless it’s to assist in the “slap”. Also, could you comment on what Martin is teaching here. Is it at all similar to your action or is this completely unrelated/different… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5C930A8Y9I
Marty has a lot of what I am advocating in my Davinci Code process in that demo he is doing on that video but he has a definite ‘Pitch Elbow’ process being applied which I dont want in Davinci,… I dont want any elbow travel laterally …and I want the hand/fingers to get past the elbow line post impact if possible… which they have to if you ‘pitch’ the hand/fingers with the wrist hinge release.
What Marty is demonstrating with the body creating the release by way of a ‘pitch elbow’ application has an element of Davinci by way of the ‘initial’ positioning of the trail elbow against the rib cage starting the downswing…and his ‘tip back’ of the club head is my ‘radial fanning’ action… similar mechanics but you couldn’t ‘overlay’ them as a comparative comparison.
Trying to achieve ‘Hook Back’ for me adds a ‘buttressing’ effect to the trail arm/elbow for its maintenance of position on the rib cage through impact and beyond … by trying to ‘feel’ the lead upper arm has the same amount of connection through impact and beyond as the trail upper am/elbow has gives a much better feeling appreciation of where the trail upper arm/elbow really needs to be through impact.
I guess its a type of ‘insurance policy’ of maintaining the amount of required trail upper arm/elbow attachment you really need in the swing through impact…. its just an additional ‘overkill’ in terms of creating the ‘type’ of feeling you actually need in the swing normally.
what a graet swing
Its not that great yet but I think it will be a very good swing to use once I have sorted out how to build it into a repeatable mechanism.
JH – Previously you mentioned ( I think ): “There is no radial deviation”.
What does this mean ? Thanks.
I cant remember the specific reference to that comment but I probably was referring to the trail hand as it moves up from the ball in the bicep curl on the back swing that it remains looking at the ball with no radial rotation of the trail forearm clockwise as the club is taken to the top of the swing.
Just think of the position of your trail hand/forearm as it is at address feeling the same orientation right to the top of the back swing.
Hi JH – I found the feeling of keeping the elbow behind the seam made me shank the ball a lot. I think I’ve now found a better way (for me ‘individually’ to feel it properly) as follows:
1. I replicate impact feel at address and also feel a slight pressure/connection between my ‘upper right arm/elbow’ over my right hip.
2. In my backswing (as I feel I am doing an underarm throwing action – just ‘hinge’ of wrist and 90 degree cocking of right arm) I sense that my right ‘upper arm/elbow’ has moved only a few inches up vertically from point 1 position.
3. As I throw the club down and out the elbow plane (by unfolding my right cocked arm – not a casting action because the wrist just responds to that forearm unfold action ), I sense that I am also trying to return my ‘upper arm/elbow’ to its position felt at impact in point 1 (just before impact).
4. I do the above but also feel I am slightly closed and throwing the clubhead sweetspot through the ball and to the right of target. This actually provides a nice draw result or a straight pull to the actual target.
I have no sense of ‘centre of swing’ being my sternum notch or ‘centre of clubshaft swing’ being my left shoulder joint. I actually feel that the centre of my clubshaft swing is my right elbow position above my right hip. The total swing is made so much easier because all I have to feel is the spatial awareness of where my right ‘upper arm/elbow’ is relating to my right hip (just a few inches movement throughout the backswing into impact).
Personal modification will be on occasions a requirement for most people… what you have come up with if it gets the result you want is the way to go.
I think if you are getting a shank with the the elbow position back could be because you are not ‘throw/releasing’ the hand/fingers with the curve ball pitching action where the trail hand feels like it is covering/polishing the ball at impact… remember you cannot shank a shot ( with any type Golf Swing) if the club face is releasing hard because the hosel is moving ‘away’ from the ball as the toe is releasing around the ball.