Geoff Mangum On reading putts with the four skills:
In the PuttingZone we teach math and physics for ballparking the read (more simple and accurate than APE) and then teach three instinctive visualizations with the golfer’s optimal, usual ball speed. These three movies accept the putting situation as it is without estimated numbers, and so yield a read that is more accurate and scientific than “calculated” aims using estimations of slope, green speed, distance, and slope flatness.
The three movies all agree on the imagined curve the ball will actually follow over slope and contour into the cup. And the three movies show the same start line at the beginning of the imagined curve. And the end of these start lines at the fall line above the cup all identify the same aim target. And these aim targets usually adjust and correct the estimated math calculated target with a minor adjustment.
Then the golfer is taught how to aim from behind the ball at the target, how to aim from beside the ball by following the aim of the putter face straight up across the green as far as the fall line, and how to sense the correctness of the aim with the body setup and stroke movement habit the same way a golfer aims a seven iron at a flag stick.
Then the golfer is taught how to stroke the ball exactly where the putter face is aimed.
And of course the golfer knows how to have focused action intentionality to the space at the hole for rolling the ball to and nicely into the cup or with pace that stops shortly past the hole, using natural tempo and the body’s instinctive sizing of the stroke for the distance, green speed, and any uphill or downhill.
The math is only used if the surface slope is the SAME from ball to hole, which means the same flatness, and not two or more different slopes or changing contour. If that is true (usually not for putts longer than about 10 feet), the method using estimated numbers is this:
Perceive the fall line or straight putt up thru the hole (as taught) and then estimate the slope using the eyes and the golfer’s trained familiarity with the look of usual slopes (no guessing ankles). Then aim this many inches from the center of the cup straight up the fall line:
Inches of break = Distance of ball from center of cup (feet) times Slope % / 2 (inches of break per foot).
For example, the math target for a 7-foot putt over 2% slope is:
7’ x 2%/2 = 7”.
Imagine a target (tee peg) in the green on the fall line above the cup 7” from the center of the cup. Aim there, and putt straight where aimed with the usual perfect pace.
A 4-foot putt over 3% slope aims
4’ x 3%/2 = 6”.
a 1% slope breaks 1/2” per foot;
a 2% slope breaks 1” per foot;
a 3% slope breaks 1.5” per foot; and
a 4% slope breaks 2” per foot.
This math is estimated based upon empirical testing of good ball speed on usual green speed (about stimp 9.5’ to 10’). If the speed is faster, just tip the math — stimp 11’ is tipped 10% more break than stimp 10’.
Then forget the math and read the green with instinctive prediction with a more precise assessment of the factors that matter for more accurate science than the math.
The three movies all use an imagined baseline straight from ball to center of cup (that divides the green neatly into a high side and a low side), and a length of line from the hole straight up the fall line — making a “corner” for the breaking putt that renders irrelevant all of the rest of the green outside this corner. With this corner in mind, imagine these three movies each with the same perfect ball speed the golfer actually putts with:
1. Imagine putting straight down the baseline at the center of the cup with perfect pace and then predict exactly where the ball curves below the baseline and crosses the fall line below the cup, before stopping within another 1-3 more rolls. The target is the same distance up the fall line.
2. Imagine a perfect-pace putt entering the cup from the high side of the “corner”, deciding exactly the final inch or so over the rim; then pretend a small car drove over the rim on this path into the cup and drive this car in reverse back along the predicted curve to the ball; once there, imagine the car’s headlights shine straight along a start line to a “target” spot on the fall line. This target will be the same as predicted in movie 1.
3. The third movie is a “feel” that starts by aiming down the baseline and imagining only perfect pace, knowing that the aim line is too low and the ball will quickly curve off the baseline to the low side. Then angle the putter face a little to the high side and check the body feeling — if the aim is still too low, the body will “feel a need to putt faster than perfect pace in order to keep the ball on the high side of the baseline all the way to the hole.” If you get this feeling, the aim is too low for perfect pace, so angle the putter face aim to a slightly higher start line and check the body feel again. If this line is still too low, the body feel of needing extra pace will still be present, but will be smaller of fainter. The golfer in this manner aims until the body feel signals that the aim is just high enough that no extra pace is required and perfect pace will for the first time keep the ball on the high side all the way to and into the cup. At this point, imagine headlights on the putter face shining straight along a start line at a spot on the fall line. Thus target will agree with movies 1 and 2.
My experience is that the instinctive movies will usually not be exactly the same as any math target but will only be a minor adjustment.
There is plenty more about teaching reading putts in the PuttingZone, but the above methods have been developed exclusively in the PuttingZone for the first time in golf history and are earlier than any other aiming-only gimmicks with the exception of the 1984 book by Colonel H.A. Templeton of Dallas Texas, who spent a year or more mapping green contours and experimenting with putts and green speed and slopes and computer programs snd aim charts, all explained in his 200-page book full of greens agronomy and ball-roll physics called Vector Putting: The Art and Science of Reading Greens and Computing Break.
So it’s not really true anymore that the best way to learn how to read greens is alone trying this and that on greens for years. There’s a lot to learn and know and use way beyond sticking fingers up in the air.er your text here...
Geoof Mangum - PuttingZone
Its easy to think when you look at a swing by two different people that they dont do the same swing system, these two does the same but they look different for the eye. and when Lee the Cmotion guy comes and tells me I done things right with the model of CMotion,
We have stirrups that start in feet and go to top of head . That's all I'll say on this for now. Now knowing the reflexology of the rest is what unlocks your ability to look normal and make a full motion. Biomechanical structural feel and functions will never get you anywhere but lost and contrived . So JH here's a huge hint. There is reflexology and parametric acceleration and I can get my club head speed as high as 155 using reflexology and never get hurt or be hurt. As if parametric acceleration it's total bullshit and tears your spine to shreds and cannot produce 155 as I've done it that way and it's a total joke and irrelevant. Reflexology is running your life from birth to death unlock that and it's over. I've figured all that out. I don't chase Da vinci cause it's easier then even that.
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication."
Leonardo da Vinci
Update: Just came back from 2 hours of focused practice. The narrower stance and straight legs made all the difference for me. Basically never missed a shot. Manager was watching and I was calling every shot I was going to hit. He was amazed! Never missed my call shots from 60 degree through driver.
He then asked me to explain what I was doing because he said everything I was doing was the opposite of all he reads! I said, yep…and does the flight of the ball lie? I got him started on the channel lock and within about 10 minutes he was hitting shots he had never hit. He just stared at the shots in amazement. He now is going to your golf site to get the finer points. I told him, he needs no other guidance and to throw all other techniques away…this one works. He agreed.
You make so much sense JH. As a disciple of Yogi since 1981, so much of channel lock makes sense to me. Am still having issues of playing ball back far enough, because Yogi played it more forward and hit on upswing. But the radius lock definitely makes sense and I have used that on putting and chipping for years also.
Yogi stiffened his right leg as he went back. People don’t realize that. He rotated around the rear axis. Straightening the right leg turning away is a key I have used for years. He told me “the flight of the ball never lies.” “If you hit the ball and it goes straight and feels terrible, keep doing it until it feels good!.” Pretty good advice! Everyone has always said to me, “How do you hit it so long when you look like you are swinging half speed.”
Yet, my swing speed in prime was over 115. You have really helped me to reconnect with Yogi and add some of channel lock and radius lock. With all the garbage being taught on Golf Channel and other teachers, it is easy to begin to question what made you good in the first place. Will keep you posted on my progress. Thank you for having the balls, like “Yogi” to be different!
One of the truly great regrets I have is not being able to see Yogi swing and actually talk with him about ‘his’ swing thoughts…his swing was IMO all about ‘thoughts/feels’ and not specific mechanics … his swing setup and ignition time phasing was millisecond precise which meant his brain activation circuitry switched on at precisely the same uptake rate every time .
Moe Norman’s phasing was exactly the same as well… I measured hundreds of his swing preparatory pre swing and backswing ignition processes and they just didn’t vary at all…like as Yogi… millisecond precise.
The rear Vertical axis is I believe where the Golf swing emphasis should be applied ..its the dominant/sensory side of the body for 99% of people but invariably never gets utilised to its true potential … the real stabilisation capability of the dominant side of the body to support the speed producers which are the arms/hands is never taken advantage of with a forward positioned golf ball at address.
I have always been an ..’Outside Of The Box’ thinker and will continue to be so .. and if you think about that why would you ever want to confine yourself to thinking only within the confines of ‘the box’ your whole life …
An interesting thing happened only yesterday… I was doing a video and a teaching Pro I hadn’t seen for a while came over and sat down and watched me do the video… when I finished he said ..’what the hell was that all about’…you look crazy in your setup but were stripping the ball .. I went through what I was doing and after he a dozen shots he said…’ you just destroyed my teaching career’… how can I go back to teaching and tell everyone that all teaching to date has been totally wrong .. because it clearly has been.
I told him that I felt exactly the same and was so annoyed that I had wasted my entire golfing life to date trying to apply a totally flawed procedure … however he took no consolation from my own admission….
Yogi would have made fortune if he had the internet to his disposal as we do. No one teaches “see, feel, trust” by standing tall, locked back leg and then the channel lock setup. This way of hitting has taken the complete stress away from my replaced left hip! AMAZING! Have also picked up a 10 to 20 yards on my irons and at times, 40 to 50 yards on my driver. Can power fade it or power draw it at will. Same with the irons.
My chipping and pitching also has improved dramatically and am now trying to incorporate into my putting. Did much better with that part today. As you know, Yogi preached his way for his entire life, but the PGA hated him.
He would have won out had the internet been his platform. He still has the prettiest swing of all time in my opinion. Moe was great, but not pretty.
Yogi is my favorite all time golf swing… no one had his swing flow or majesty of movement…if ever a swing could be classified as ‘ Artistic’ it had to be his,
The guy I knew that had lessons from Yogi said Yogi didn’t walk ..he ‘floated’ … he really did move differently to anyone else I have ever seen.. you would have seen him just walking around the teaching facility when he wasn’t swinging and I bet you saw the ‘floating’ type movement he displayed when he was just walking normally.
I hit a bunch of shots this afternoon in a howling cross head wind and the ball just bored holes in the wind.. a guy was complaining about a new TaylorMade sand wedge he had just bought and how it was badly balanced .. I was on my way to my car and I just said.. ‘so the wedge is not a good one eh’ … let me have a hit with it.. there was a flag at 40 yards and the first ball stopped 4 ft from the hole and the second ball rolled up and touched the first ball .. I gave the wedge back to the guy and said it did have an unbalanced feel and maybe he should cut his losses and sell it quickly before it becomes used… he was speechless…as
I walked away I just said over my shoulder to come tomorrow and I will show him how to use an ‘unbalanced’ wedge… Channel Lock will do a lot of that type of stuff in the future.
Loved the explanations JH! So you would say the golf swing is more of a left hand pull than a right hand dominant? There’s always a big debate, but you hear people like Moe and Ben Hogan talk about pulling so hard with there left hand and squeezing really hard with the last 3 fingers.
Do you squeeze your left hand really hard like you’re trying to draw blood?
I personally think that the lead hand definitely should ‘start’ the backswing and start the ‘downswing’.in both those cases the ‘starting’ is to establish a correct anatomic hierarchical sequencing… I say that because I think it is the ‘distal ‘ part of the swing body components ( the ‘connector’ parts to the golf club) that should always lead the swing process …I know the lead foot/hip is really the true precursor of body component sequencing on the downswing but unless you the lead hand going first in the downswing you will have a tough time getting the lead shoulder top stay closed long enough in the downswing to impact.
As far as pressure amounts in the lead back fingers and hand pad I guess the maximum amount that you can apply without compromising your range of lead hand wrist cocking on the back swing and down cocking… Moe did hold on super tight with his lead hand but he was left handed remember and had a better than average amount of lead wrist flexibility because of that…as well he could grip really tight with his lead fingers but have his lead forearm super soft which was crazy.
Getting the balance of the lead hand dominance is a tough thing to do.. because you just need an ‘initial’ dominance to get things underway on the down swing and then be able to curtail that dominance at the right time so as to not impeded the application of the dominant hand through impact.. its just a thing you have to work on very diligently but it really is very important in the Channel Lock swing because you need to get the lead hand pulling early in the downswing to ensure as much of a straight line attack to the ball before impact.. I will do more on that aspect going forward.