Posted by William on November 6, 2016 in Count Yogi
Hi JH – Fantastic, exciting stuff!! Your swing looks so free and easy even
with some of your Moe Norman programming .
As I mentioned previously, I went to the range a few days ago and used
Count Yogi action/mental routine (as much as I could) and hit astoundingly
straight , long and effortless shots . Further, I hadn’t made a full swing
(because of the winter here) for a full 3-4 months and the system worked.
The only problem I did experience with this swing was uncertaintly about
how to draw and fade the ball when just ‘letting go’ and hitting up into an
elegant finish (but this of far less importance than hitting it straight).
Imho , I think that this could be the golf swing ‘nirvana’ that we all
secretly look for, so good luck promoting the Count with Mr Nicholls .
+P SMITH I think when you want to work the ball its just the same as you
would do normally, just a stance direction and club face adjustment for the
Without being over the top I think this swing methodology could be the next
big thing if someone of a high profile promoted it, it really does work so
well when you commit to it.
Whatever happens with it will happen I guess, I just love the fun of the
method and the incredible ease of swinging when you get it going, man I
couldn’t imagine not being able to play or practice for 3/4 months, hell I
get cranky if it rains for 2 days.
JH I started studying Yogi back in 2008. It is one of the most interesting
swings and methods out there. I wish you success in bringing it to the
fore! I would definitely like to be included in a revival clinic as an
His infallible routine roughly is
The Five Simple Steps which are
1:take a forward step with the right foot placing the clubface loft line
behind the ball. The clubface is your lineup guide, so don’t look up again.
2:Step with your left foot turned out just ahead of the ball.
3: Move your right foot to square the stance parallel to the line of
flight. Stop! Stand tall and loose. Don’t waggle. Hands behind the ball.
4.take the clubhead straight back loosely, down and inside as far a
possible, flatfooted and in balance.
5: Return the clubface to the ball, under and going straight up the arrow
line of flight! Look up instantly. Finish standing tall with your knees
even and on the tip of your right toe. Watch where the ball goes. Then
lower the club to your right thigh letting the shaft slide and hang loosly
in your right hand.
And that roughly is the whole Count Yogi swing theory. Hard to believe it
is that simple but everyone I have gotten to try it shuts off all
mechanical thoughts and then they can’t figure out why they hit it so much
better! I count 12345. My only thought is the target. It’s a lot of fun and
really frees you up. Really long and straight. Sorry for the long post but
your videos have really got me going!
+michael broderick Hi Michael,
I know the Counts 5 step processes that he refers top in his teachings but
the way he can do those 5 things so incredibly the same ‘every-time’ is the
mental gem I want to lock into.
I think the Yogi method is amazing, having seen Moe hit the ball and spent
10 years teaching his process I know how good his swing method was/is, but
I truly believe the Count’s is better again because its so easy on the
body, its great you share my enthusiasm for the great Yogi.
+michael broderick Hi Mr Broderick – Does the book mention what grip the
Count used for long game, short game pitching chipping, putting? I’ve asked
JH in a separate comment the same question but wondering whether the book
goes into that sort of detail?
Been looking at the old footage of the Count’s swing on You Tube and
noticed that he almost sets his arms opposite to conventional. The lead arm
is bent while his rear arm is straighter with his shoulders completely
level which sort of reflects the type of torso pivot we do in our normal
lives (ie. we never usually turn with one shoulder higher than the other so
why do it in golf? ). I sense that he set up with slightly more weight on
his rear leg but on the backswing he still let his lead foot/knee roll in
and I think even lifted his rear heel. His pitching and chipping technique
is difficult to time if one has been using a firm lead wrist/arm through
impact for most of our golfing lives. Looks like it could be used for good
lies but unsure how effective it would be out of rough. Maybe he utilised
different techniques dependent on the lie but can’t find any clear footage
for those types of strokes.
Great stuff JH.
The 5 steps take a little ingraining, but are worth the effort. Not looking
was the hardest part for me, I know what you mean about the extra length
and the lack of strain on the body. For me one of the most important things
I get from the count is this attitude of not caring about the result and
playing stress free golf, both body and mind.
+123jownz The 5 steps are the key in principle, but its how the Count
applied those 5 keys with infallible repetition, to be able to ‘never’ lose
the millisecond application of those 5 keys in the absolute same manner
every swing is mind boggling when you think of it , how was he able to
‘compartmentalize’ his thought process application so incredibly precisely
‘every’ swing…which he absolutely did… to me is the stuff of another
‘dimension’, maybe that,s what its all about, the ‘4th Dimension ‘ of the
+1atomicgolf I dont post on golf forums often, but there is some
interesting chat about Yogi at the
Alternative Golf Swing Forumhttp://www.network54.com/Forum/743909
Yes P Smith. The grips are discussed and illustrated.
+michael broderick Many thanks.
I saw your letters to Tim Nichols on the CountYogi site.
They were very profound in their respect for what you saw in the Count’s
About how long ago were they written?
Unfortunately, there are very few videos that I could find showing the
Just bits and pieces here and there.
You will have to help us with what YOU saw in his swing.
Are there any slo-mo clips close to anything we saw with Moe Norman?
Maybe you could try to do some slo-motions on YOUR best “Count Yogi” swings.
I think the term “in the zone” you hear golfers talk about must be the
essence of the Count’s mental state of mind, except that the Count was able
to “live” in the zone when he was playing or on exhibition.
Interesting that golfers on a “zone” binge NEVER describe thoughts of grip,
stance, alignment etc etc.
They just describe an “effortless” feeling of see the target/hit the target.
Perhaps the Count was the only one to be able to “summon up” the same
“feeling of greatness” that Moe described.
Moe seemed to get the “feeling” when he was deep into hitting balls but the
Count seemed able to summon up the feeling almost “on demand.”
I have an impressionable 12 y/o grandson who really loves golf.
Certainly wish he had a coach who could take him under his wing at this age
and teach him how to hit it like Count Yogi.
+Chip Satterly Hi Chip,
I think I wrote those letters a couple of years ago, maybe 3…. the ‘Zone’
is the ‘4th Dimension’ of thinking.
Both Moe and the Count knew how to not only enter the ‘4th Dimension’ but
to ‘live’ in it permanently, their’s was not a ‘zone’ as such, a ‘Zone’
being a considered a restricted size area…… their ‘4th’ Dimension ‘was
a complete ‘World’… hence they had the lived in a realm that had no
boundaries, to that end they could never ‘fall’ out of the ‘World’ because
it was so big and total compared to a ‘Zone’ which is small and easy to
slip out of .
I want to talk with Timothy Nichols regarding what the Count told him about
the ‘4th Dimension’ … its the ‘Holy Grail’ of the repeatable Golf Swing,
I am like you in that I would love to see a young person schooled/skilled
in the Yogi method because I truly believe his swing mechanics/dynamics are
so superior to anything that can be applied today, to the extent I believe
if the Count had been allowed to play the US Tour he would have become the
greatest name in the history of Golf… you may think I am a nutter but I
believe he could have one 50 majors because he would have still been
swinging with his perfection into his 60’s . he could still hit the ball
300 yards at 80, his swing never deteriorated, just imagine if Jack still
had his swing in his 60’s how many majors he would have won.
just to caution it may not be as technical as you would like but the
information is really good. JH does a great job explaining why it works!
+michael broderick Thanks for that Michael, I certainly do not have the
‘atomic particle’ knowledge of the Count’s swing mechanics or his true
thought process application etc, however the more I study him the more I
‘think’ I understand to a reasonable degree what he did in his swing,
whether its right or way of the beam its still great fun to do as a project.
Hi JH, Enjoying the Count Yogi vids. I was working my way through them but
now see they have been removed. Will you be able to put the Drills,
parametric swing, etc video back up. I have been working on my Moe Norman
swing for about a year and haven’t adopted the CY method yet so wanted to
see what drills would help to ingrain the process. Thanks very much for all
your videos. They have been very helpful. Best Regards, Rich B
+Rich B Hi Rich,
I removed the Yogi videos because I had an email from the owner of Yogi
Golf saying I was infringing his Yogi trademarks by ‘talking’ about Count
Yogi and giving my ‘opinion’ on how I ‘thought’ he swung the club, I was
accused of ‘stealing’ Count Yogi’s swing mechanics and telling people about
them for free.
I thought it was quite bizarre to attack me for actually ‘promoting’ the
Yogi swing mechanics and the story of the great man, everything I have done
to date can only be a ‘benefit’ to the official Yogi teaching camp I would
So because of the attack on me from the Yogi establishment I will no longer
talk about the great man or his incredible golf swing , its a great pity
because I have so much regard for Yogi mechanics, but I just don’t feel I
need to be talking about Yogi stuff and getting attacked for doing it..
cheers JH PS sorry to stall your personal interest in Yogi mechanics , but
I really have no choice.
Sorry to hear about that JH but I understand. You know, I found your
YouTube Channel while searching for more Moe Norman information. But then
stuck around for the great content you provide. Never even heard of Count
Yogi until you started talking about him. From your promotion I’m sure more
than one person has googled to learn more about CY and find the Yogi
websites. Thanks Again.
cheers for this JH.
+Rex Braggins Hi Rex, Your more than welcome to it, hope it helps, I hope I
can continue to talk about Yogi stuff going forward.
I feel your pain. You resurrected the spirit of count yogi to the world. He
would be pleased. So, we move on, Mr. Indiana JH, please continue with the
great teaching, with the adventure, with the search for that holy grail.
+Bill Walsh Hi Bill,
Its all good now…. the Yogi guys really are just so protective of the
‘true’ essence of Yogi mechanics that they understandably could react the
way they did, its all water under the bridge now and I look forward to in
conjunction with Yogi Golf continuing the Yogi story awareness program.
You can rest assured I will keep looking for that ‘Holy Grail’ of golf
swing mechanics, it would be just so boring to go to the practice tee every
day and not feel that something new and exciting is a potential to be
unearthed , I am the quintessential investigator of all things ‘Golf
enjoying your tubes jh.not knowing anything about jogi from here in states
a bit new to golf I find the more rubbery
my limbs the better and buttery if you will would be your motion.when I try
to create certain motion I feel the stress and get in my own way. creating
motion may be an obstuction to what your trying to achieve.so it seems your
natural motion would be best.you gave me a awesome tip with this great ball
strikers swing…….just hitting off the mat indoors in my personal
opinion.with my best striking the right arm , hand drag load back to top
where that is a natural reaction . ok drag load right arm back into full
wrist hinge . ok here is the cool part . with your tip coming down .right
arm extention going back and down through with right arm pull into
impact.the wrist hinge is there for you to use at your descretion.and keep
the limbs buttery.thanks jh.
Yogi just wanted to be as soft and smooth as could with his body movements,
not actually having ever seen him hit balls in the flesh is not that big of
a impairment in working out what he did in his swing, the old film of his
swing is pretty self evident.
Yogi was the quintessential ‘swinger’ of the club head, he no doubt always
tried to feel the club head as a totally free agent and always tried to
keep the club head moving ‘away’ from him at all stages of the golf swing,
unlike most swings where the club head is pulled ‘into’ the body with
excessive lag downloading.
Whereas most golf swings have ‘V’ shape about them on the downswing Yogi’s
had an ‘Elliptical’ shape, he kept the clubhead moving away from him coming
down as apposed to pulling it into him , hence the club head travelled
further and generated more controllable speed compared to the normal jammed
loaded lag type actions.
I always saw his swing as similar to that of a tennis ball on a string when
you keep the tension on the string and the ball stays at the maximum length
of the string.
Yogi’s extension of his arms through the ball to the finish is evident of
him keeping the tennis ball string tight right from the top of the
backswing until the finish of the forward swing, if you get one of those
soft shafted swing things with the ball on the end of it and swing it
keeping the bend to a minimum you back and through you will fell precisely
what Yogi did in his swing.
cheers JH .
excuse me count yogi.yes I feel the right arm extention behind and
controlling a right arm pull through shot.