Posted by William on October 25, 2016 in Moe Norman
I just wanted to thank you. I have been knocking around Moe’s swing for
years. 3 Natural Golf schools etc. Nobody really knew how he did it. You
do and if one watches your videos they will be able to replicate that
wonderful short swing and hit the ball straight. Amazing. You are
appreciated by this golfer.
+rrasmussen32 I teach a lot of guys around the World who are in my private
category , these videos are sent to them but only as side issue stuff for
general enjoyment, I do not promote these videos at all and only use
Youtube as a storage area for the vids, anyone who finds them like you are
more than welcome to them.
My own personal swing goals have been to hit the ball to my ‘target’ as
best I can, hence I have never focused on distance as such, ‘short’ in the
fairway is way better than ‘Long’ in the weeds.
As well I try to get the swing going as soon as I can like Moe did because
it stops the brain from second guessing my intention, I can hit the ball
all over the face of the club and because the swing is short and on plane
it still goes pretty straight most of the time, Moe Told me he tried to hit
the ball on the 3rd groove of the face as optimum but first/second or
fourth groove still got the ball going ‘where’ he wanted it to go.
Glad you like the vids. JH.
Thanks for posting
+secretbelowthegrass Your Welcome, thanks for looking. JH
Where in Australia are you and do you do private lessons?
Hi JH Excellent description of Moe’s swing, I have been learning this
method a year now and my handicap has dropped dramatically, do get some
strange looks at my club when playing
It doesnt matter how people look at you when you swing as long as they
‘look sad’ when they have to ‘pay’ you their losing bet at the end of the
game…..Jim Furyk gets a lot of ‘funny’ looks with his swing…but plenty
of smiles from his bank manager.
Hi Master JH,…..I want to contact you , where are you? Ben H Kho
+Ben Yoshi Kho Hi Ben,
You can contact me on email … firstname.lastname@example.org.
Just a quick question. I noticed you set up with a high tee for your
drives. Is this needed for the mo swing on driver? Many thanks
+hey0mcfly I personally like to ‘hit up’ on my driver …I believe its why
I have always been a pretty straight driver of the golf ball, if you make
yourself ‘hit up’ as a swing direction its amazing how straight line the
club head has to go at the ball to achieve the ‘up’ action, so in order to
‘hit up’ with my driver I just find it way easier with the ball teed up
higher, as well the higher teeing of the ball makes me stay back and behind
the hit at impact.
+1atomicgolf Sorry, I didn’t address the core question, I think if you are
doing the Moe type swing it will promote a ‘hit up ‘ club head travel path
so its advantageous to have the ball teed higher than normal, and I have
just found that if the ball is teed up higher it tends to keep your head
back and behind the ball at impact just as a result of the hitting up
1atomicgolf just a quick question about the grip I’ve been using Moe’s
swing for about 10 yrs off and on and started out with the 10 finger grip
now I use overlapping grip what graves golf teaches. what’s your opinion on
the best grip to use out of the two ? I like the 10 finger but struggle
with hooking fairway woods . I’m currently a 4 handicap trying to get to
+Allen Davis Hi Allen,
I have taught a big number of people over the years the Moe Norman
mechanics but I have never pitched the split grip to any of them, if they
wanted to use that grip I went along with them but my recommendation was
always for the normal Vardon type grip because that’s what Moe used when he
played at his peak.
Moe got away with the change when he signed on with Natural Golf because he
was left handed and he pulled so hard with his left hand (lead hand) which
was his ‘dominant hand that he negated the normal dominance of the trail
hand to take over the delivery of the club head to the ball.
I just found that with the split grip there was to ‘much’ dominance of the
trail hand which caused on most occasions flipping or excessive trail
forearm rotation before impact, and I felt the normal set of the shoulders
was compromised because the trail hand/arm was pushed further down the grip
Moe told me he changed his grip so the Natural Golf process would have
something really different to promote and the fact that he didn’t play
anymore it didn’t worry him as such , anytime you have the dominant hand
structured to be more independent as it is with the split grip there is a
propensity for it to ‘lead’ the downswing attack rather than be the
‘follower it needs to be.
Its a bit strange you only hook your 3 wood with the split grip, , but if
you like the split grip and its only the 3 wood hooking that bothers you
you could always get rid of those hooks with a bit of structural changing
of ball position or pressure reduction in the trail hand etc.
cheers JH PS. the only players I taught that were reasonably successful
with playing the split grip were in fact left handed people playing right
handed, same as Moe.
I’ve been successful with both grips . I have a problem with my trail hand
taking over just watched your video today going to try letting my right
hand ride and pulling with my left tomorrow
+Allen Davis I think you are on the right track with that thinking.
+1atomicgolf well tried it out and wow is all I can say 1st time in a long
time I could flush my 2 hybrid 230 yards consistently. I played all my
shots like you showed in video with javelin down the line just a short
backswing throwing the club back and pulling the butt of the club to the
ball I was shocked of the outcome. my score wasn’t the greatest 77 but for
once I had confidence in what I was doing. I’ve tried pulling with left
before but I seen what I was doing wrong in the past taking club straight
back and coming down too steep on downswing. yesterday I came more inside
and up and coming back more on a shallower line . I also noticed if I grip
with my right hand too tight I’d hit a draw so id lighten it up and get
back to hitting it straight. just want to say thanks for the advice and the
videos you put on YouTube!
+Allen Davis Happy to help, glad some of the stuff is getting a result.
Also, I’ve read that the sweet spot is actually a little “above” he center
of face. So teeing higher would seem to help do that.
I’ve been messing with my grip a little come to find out I’ve had more
success with a conventional grip with Moe’s swing instead of using a strong
right hand grip and neutral grip with my right what’s your opinion
1atomicgolf on this
I have always used a conventional type grip with Moe Norman’s swing, which
he did all his actual playing days as well, he only changed to the split
grip when he hooked up with Natural Golf, and when Moe had his normal type
Vardon grip it was quite normal in the amount of ‘strong’ as apposed to
‘neutral’ orientation of the hands on the grip, to put a description on his
grip it was fairly neutral in orientation , certainly not ‘strong’ in any
+1atomicgolf thanks for the info