Posted by William on October 25, 2016 in Moe Norman
So much easier for short pitch/lob shots to stand closer and then during
downswing butt of club to remain close to right thigh. Better consistency.
+Aussie Mike Hi Mike, I agree that on short pitch shots where you are not
requiring much hip drag to create speed and timing as you do in longer
distance shots that its better to get as close to the ball as possible
because accuracy is vital and standing closer to the ball during the swing
creates a more vertical swing plane which is a more accurate delivery line.
This video of course was referenced to Moe Normans swing mechanics only,
most people who have a conventional two axis swing setup invariably have
their hands closer to the body naturally during pitch shots, Moe always had
his club shaft inline with his right forearm with his single axis so he was
always going to have his hands further away from his body than a
conventional Golf swing , this video was only to highlight not overdoing
the ‘extended’ arms set up for pitch shots.
Hi JH – Thanks for this video as this was never mentioned in Todd Graves
recent book. Did Moe ever tell you how to shape shots? I’m reading Todd
Graves version in his book but it doesn’t make sense to me at all. He
mentioned Moe opening and closing his stance (to target line) for fade and
draw , swinging along that open or closed stance path but also swinging the
back of his left hand to target???? But no change in grip club relationship
or change in wrist /arm action etc . But to me that is contradictory if he
then says swing the back of the left hand to target because that infers a
manipulation. Plus, imho , it isn’t stance that dictates swing path through
impact , but more the line of the shoulders. And with Moe doing a pre-turn
at address complicates the setup for shaped shots even further with regards
ball position especially if he opens and closes his stance too. Any tips on
Moe norman address position for draws and fades, low and high shots would
be most welcomed.
+P SMITH Hi Keith,
I will do a video on shot shaping relative to what Moe thought, he didn’t
really do much at all in terms of structural changes intentionally , it was
very simplistic , basically the same as I myself have always applied to
shot shaping, the ‘pre turn’ you must remember is only a precursor setting
of his ‘normal’ direction backswing arc , it will be the same with any
directional setup orientation he disposes to for any shot direction
Moe was not left handed… Not too many people understand that Moe
completely overhauled his golf swing in 2001, He said, Manuel De La Torre,
told him this new updated version of the “Perfect golf swing.”… Moe said
all he was doing before was “Junk”. He said he never knew, golf was this
easy. And never went back to his old style ever again.
Moe was left handed, absolutely no dispute about that, if he wasn’t he did
an amazing job of signing a 100 copies of his book ‘”The Feeling Of
Greatness” with his left hand one morning when I was with him, every other
item that people gave him to autograph he signed left handed, every one
that knew Moe knows he was left handed, why do you say he wasn’t?.
The video you probably saw of Moe hitting balls and saying he had changed
his swing because of what De latorre had told him, he was only referring to
increasing his hip turn a bit starting his downswing, and he was only
enamored with the change for a short period of time because it clearly
effected his timing and he returned to his normal process
The very reason the great majority of people who try to swing like Moe have
difficulty with the lateral slide and lead arm dominance is because they
simply are not ‘left handed’, .the dominant lateral pull with the lead arm
that Moe exhibited has never been duplicated by anyone I have seen that was
right handed , no one… no one left handed either.
Moe could hit the ball perfectly with just his left hand so dominant was it
in his swing, he was left handed categorically.
And Moe said it himself. He said he had to learn right handed with borrowed
right-handed clubs when being a caddie and before he owned a set, ’cause
there were no lefty players in town.
He sure signed a lot of autographs left handed, and I saw that video and
the changes appeared so minor that only an expert in Moe’s swing would be
able to see the difference. I don’t recall any mention in that video of
anyone saying his swing was “completely overhauled”. It simply looked like
he had moved his feet a little closer together and reduced the forward