Posted by William on October 25, 2016 in Moe Norman
Great story JH. I’m almost glad I can’t play golf right now due to my heart
surgery (another month they reckon!) because following you is like trying
to keep up with the Road Runner! The problem is, despite your regular
changes of direction, you always seem to make perfect sense! So, when I
finally get to swinging again, I’ll be dumping the washing machine and
going for the atomic particle! Does this tie in with your earlier Moe
Norman videos for the swing basics, or will you be covering the Moe Basics
again in future videos?
I will be covering the ‘overall’ componentry and dynamics of Moe’s swing
with the inclusion of the ‘Particle.
I think the ‘Road Runner’ would have a hard time changing direction as
quickly as I do, but hey that’s the whole reason for my channel, I give
‘lots of alternatives’ for swinging a Golf club, what I should emphasis is
when you get ‘something’ that ‘works’ stick with it, only make changes if
the new process can be of more benefit to you.
Cheers JH ” BEEP BEEP’
what is the title of the book please
The Book name is ‘Golf Reform Is At Hand’…it was put out by the Natural
Golf people in 1994, frankly there is not any worthwhile swing information
in the book really , and the paragraph Moe outlined for me is just an
explanation by the Natural Golf people of a specific facet of Moe’s swing,
it has some stuff in it that may be of interest to people that did not know
of the Natural Golf swing explanation of Moe’s swing.
What an AMAZING story!! I got “chill bumps” listening to your description
of what happened in the re-discovery of the book and your intense
revelation of the noted paragraph.
I think the Holy Spirit (not “good luck”) recognized your true love for Moe
and your devotion to teaching his swing over the years to so many eager
The fact that the “secret” was hidden from you for so long just makes the
experience that much more electric AND meaningful.
What is the hymnal verse…??
“I once was blind…but now I see….”
And I certainly look forward to your series on revisiting Moe’s swing and
trying to master the essence of Moe’s “atomic particle.”
Your Tarheel friend!
It has been a great experience, quite profound really, when we look at the
possibilities of time /distance in life over 21 years with the countless
times that book has been put somewhere or other during house moves and
alike it makes you think that there was a ‘specific’ time and reason for
the message be found.
I just wonder why the ‘Specific Reasoning’ did not take into consideration
that giving me the message at my advanced age was not fair, man what I
could have done with the message in the last 21 years.
Please be careful about portraying your swing as Moes swing if it’s not
superclose to Moes. It’s not to be honest. Your setup is very different and
your turn and balance is different. You are not turning around your right
hip/frozen leg. Like a washing machine around this point, completely
balanced, head in correct position for a shift to left frozen leg and get
all that in a whiplash at last sec, like moe did.
I still think your swing is great for beginners and I love to hear all your
inside info about him, truely nothing like your information in the world so
for that you are awesome Sir!
I have never portrayed my swing in anyway to Moe’s, in fact I have gone to
significant lengths to say that everything I do relative to his swing is
just my Hybrid version of his, no has ever swung as Moe did, and I dont
believe anyone will ever because his physicalities and timing factors were
unique to him, but I absolutely have never said or portrayed in any way
that my swing is like his, ever.
+1atomicgolf Okay good to hear and I never accused you of it! Some who try
and swing like Moe seems to do this however, but not you. Love the videos =)
Thanks so so much for this info. Really perfect! =) =)
Great content, keep it coming. I’m a bit of a partical geek myself when it
comes to the golf swing. Here, I have 2 thoughts; first, call it the golf
gods, spirit of Moe, or whatever, take a close look at what happens
approximately 9:26 into this video, truly inspiring, there is clearly life
in that book, a message that wants to get out, second, I have that book,
published here in the states as “Natural Golf, Get a Grip on your Game” and
I concur there is much in it of little use, however, the atomic partial of
what is referenced by Moe on page 26 I believe is best explained as
“Sup-45-Abduct” on page 72 later in the book. To me, this is the magic move
of golf. It may be what Moe did, Hogan, others ? You may not notice it if
you are already doing it, but I noticed when I first read it that it is not
necessarily natural and you may not be doing it. I was not. Once you do it,
its unbelievable power and accuracy. I personally would try to supinate the
right wrist 90 degrees or as far as I can, more than 45 for sure ( my feel
). The partical is then this: On the take away, supinate the right wrist as
far as it will go, while abducting or hinging the right wrist back as far
as it will go. Keeps the elbow in, promotes the washing machine “in a
barrel” type mechanics, promotes a “flatter” swing with lower hands, and
sets up for hammering the ball. Do this with a relatively neutral left hand
and relatively strong right hand grip. Grip leans a bit towards the palms
than the fingers, but really splits the difference, it should not be a palm
nor a finger grip. Like you would hold a hammer, not entirely in the
fingers nor in the palms.
“Feels” I associate with this move are a “curl” of the right arm as in
weightlifting and what I call the “spiderman” move as when spiderman shoots
out webbing. You shoot out a spider web while you perform a curl on the
As you have incite to Moe and other great ball strikers, your thoughts, is
this what they did, it seems to work for me….?
Long Island NY USA
All the great ball strikers I think had ‘different’ feels and processes but
if you look at all of them they visually look almost identical in the
hands/wrists position at the top of the swing , waist high, and impact…so
however they ‘felt’ the mechanics they basically did the ‘same’ in
mechanical effect, I think I get the Sup 45 -Abduct’ effect but I dont get
it from the way Jack Kuykendall said to do it, and I think all other great
ball strikers have had their ‘own’ way of getting it.
The backswing from the ball for Moe was a straight inside folding of the
right arm around the ribcage, if you watch his right arm you can see he
clearly rotates his right forearm anti clockwise which just sets it for the
vertical drop on the down swing.
I dont apply Moe’s absolute mechanics because I am not built like him , but
I try to use the ‘essence’ of his process.
JH, Thank you so much for sharing this incredible story. A couple of
moments there where you had to compose yourself… I teared up with you. I
don’t play much anymore, but I continue to work on my swing, hit balls,
etc. I have recently switched to Moe’s mechanics and have found it to be
easier, simpler and more repeatable than other methods I have tried. I only
wish I had pursued it years ago instead of trying to emulate so many
“classic” swings, but, like your touching story… it happened “when it
happened”… that’s life. Thank you again for being so generous with your
life experience, knowledge and wisdom. Say hello to Marty for me. dre
I will say hello to Marty for you when I see him next, which will probably
now be next week,I like you wish I had really dedicated more time and
effort to Moe’s mechanics when I first became are of them ,its crazy at my
age these days to be hitting the ball so much better than I ever have
before, and again as you said ..It Happens When It Happens…
Amazing story JH, I’m loving your videos so much. I’m constantly trawling
YouTube for instructional stuff but don’t think I’ll bother anymore now
that I’ve found your videos. There is absolutely no doubt that this method
is superior when it comes to ball striking consistency. I’ve had my best
rounds using my own version of it but I’ve always thought it still needed a
little refining but now I think you’ve finally unlocked the secret and I
couldn’t be more thankful. Keep the vids coming 👍🏻
Glad there is some stuff that works for you, its all about how we can get
‘our’ swing to perform for us, I just have always believed you should try
stuff of all types and see if you get better results, it doesn’t hurt to
try different stuff… the worst that can happen is that it doesn’t work
for you …you can then just try something else…but if you dont try it
you will never know if it could have helped you.