Posted by William on October 25, 2016 in Moe Norman
More great stuff!!
Any tips on how to hit those irons without a divot? I would like to just
“brush the grass” but it is difficult for me . Perhaps your impact is just
shallower than mine.
You know I have always been a ‘shaver’ of the ball rather than a digger, I
think its because I have a left elbow that was injured back before I
started playing golf and it doesn’t like to straighten through impact and
beyond and as result I get a bit of chicken wing which gets the club going
level to a bit up through the ball, I have always been able to hit long
irons easily because of that I think, and why I have been straight driver
of the ball, I love tight lies because I just sweep the ball away.
The strange thing for me has always been my not so good results with the 3
wood of the ground , I dont know if its the general length of a 3 wood that
doesn’t suit my action but I actually have to hit down on the 3 wood to
make good contact, its only been since the clubs got longer over the years,
the old wooden 3 wood I could hit of a concrete road because of its shorter
The guy that owns the range where I practice says he never knows where I
have been practicing because I never leave divot patches, all the other
young guys and Pros leave areas totally denuded of grass and earth, as Moe
said..’ I could hit of your head and only touch a few hairs’… I used to
hit balls of the face of a watch at clinics years back, it was a hoot
because I would be wearing a Rolex that people didn’t know was a fake worth
50 bucks and I used to say ..’Watch this, I dont take divots so I can hit
of the face of my Rolex Watch’.. and I did, it blew people away, I must see
if I have that old fake Rolex still and do it on one of my videos.
JH, kinda like Calvin Peete? he also had elbow issues and was as straight
as they come.
What is your opinion on Moe’s E3 swingweight.
I actually had a set of the Natural Golf clubs in the exact specs of Moes
Clubs, E 3 swingweight,woods and irons, they were surprisingly easy to hit
if you swung smoothly with them, the were like a sledgehammer in that once
you got them going they just plowed through the ball.
I played with them for a while and hit them well, I only stopped playing
with them because someone bought them off me..
I haven’t had any modern day clubs in that spec, would I recommend that
swingweight, not unless you are quite strong and have a smooth tempo, Moe
swung the club briskly but his tempo was actually very smooth.
Hi JH – When you do your backswing , is your right elbow still sort of
keeping its relationship with reference to your right hip (ie. from a
vertical perspective)? So when you hinge your right wrist , and then turn
your hips, does your right elbow just bend up in front of your hip to
complete that restricted backswing (ie. elbow not being pulled behind you)?
So in effect, any cocking of your left wrist is caused by the cocking of
your right elbow not by the cocking of your right wrist.
PS. Will you be doing any videos on scoring shots like chipping and
pitching out of rough to close greens etc? Finding that I am shanking a lot
of balls when opening that face and trying to chip/pitch out of semi-rough.
Dead scared of trying those shots now.
My right elbow just gets its formation from the pulling inside of the
hands/arms on the backswing which for me is very deliberate, my hands push
down and inside which automatically keep pressure on the right elbow to not
The short shot out of rough from close to the green can be a problem if you
combine a really open club face and to much of an open stance, I hardly
change my address stance at all for those type of shots and I have zero
forward shaft angle lean in the shot, if you open the face and have the
shaft way forward its hard to get the release done with the lower speed of
that type of swing, I will do a video on that stuff when I do the Moe
Particle bunker shot video.
Cheers JH – your a star.
Isn’t this very much like the “Hogan Twist”?
Hogan’s Twist that Tom Bertrand refers to is a ‘cupping’ action of the left
wrist, I dont advocate that , most of my swings incorporate a ‘hinging’
action which is a ‘square to square’ type trail wrist movement of the back
of the trail hand moving towards the outside of the trail forearm, as if
you were setting the trail hand up for a ‘slapping’ action at the ball.
Isn’t the hinging action a Mike Austin or Count Yogi trait? This wrist
/hand movement reminds me of Gary Player’s strike the match move and maybe
Mr. Hogan was refering to this with his three right hands. In several
videos Mr. Norman made the statement he was the only golfer living that had
the feeling of greatness. Was he indicating that he believed Mr. Hogan also
used this swing idea? Thanks for another fine video.
The hinging action in Mike austin and Count Yogi was predominantly through
impact rather than in the backswing, I asked Moe about his statement of
being the only player with the ‘Feeling Of Greatness’….he said he just
meant he personally felt he could do anything he wanted with his golf shots
from the very first time he found his swing and the feeling ‘never’ left
him, he didn’t believe any other player had the absolute conviction that
their swing would never go away or break down, he knew his wouldn’t , which
I guess would be a ‘Great Feeling’…
Hogan certainly had the incredible commitment of impact delivery with his
trail hand that Moe did but achieved it differently in that his ‘lead’
loading was influenced more by the rotating of his lead hip and and right
side leg drive , whereas Moe pulled unbelievably hard with his his lead
hand/arm and moved his hips laterally as apposed to rotating them , ok
Hogan moved his hips laterally to but then rotated them before impact, Moe
Mike Austin certainly hit incredibly hard with his trail hand in a very
deliberate manner, all good ball strikers hit with their trail hand hard,
but some just emphasis that action more than others, as did
jh I’m definitely a Moe disciple. these videos are fantastic, useful, and
easy to apply. well done mate.
Glad you are getting something from the videos, they are of course only
‘my’ take on Moe’s mechanics and clearly not the definitive explanation of
the ‘absolute’s’ of his mechanics, as long as there is something that helps
players to use the basics of Moe’s mechanics I am happy.